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[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She says that Obama was bad. Everyone understands she was being sarcastic. Since she was being sarcastic it means that she is trying to say that Obama wasn't bad (because that's how sarcasm works).

[–] epicspongee@midwest.social 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Since she was being sarcastic it means that she is trying to say that Obama wasn't bad (because that's how sarcasm works).

I mean… no? Sarcasm works in multiple ways lol. This is like a children’s picture book-level of understanding of sarcasm.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok, this has gone over my head. can you explain what she meant? her "joke" reads like a retreading of stale reddit-logo memes from /r/politics.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every US president is a War Criminal.

However, most sane people would agree that Obama was, as far as U.S. presidents go, very uncontroversial. Well spoken, very few scandals, centrist policies, didn't make a fool of himself every time he met a head of state, etc.

So the conservatives latched onto the WEIRDEST shit. Made him up as a Kenyan citizen (???), actually made a big deal about his choices of condiments or suit colors, etc. These were all real things that made the mainstream news cycles, because Obama wasn't livetweeting his every thought or being indicted every day, but US conservatives had to complain about something.

This is to be contrasted to the mainstream Republican figureheads, who are unbelievably crass&corrupt traitors yet receive nothing but praise from the same media/pundits that thrashed Obama for his choice of mustard.

Absurdist contrast like this is, indeed, comedic. I rest my case.


(Also Natalie has talked in-depth about how shitty this faux-leftist "the democrat candidate is actually center-right and imperfect, therefore I shall not vote for them even if it gives the win to the literal rapist who will absolutely jail me for my political beliefs, gender expression, or sexual orientation if given the chance" in her videos, most notably the 2020 campaign video, but of course none of that fits in 240 characters, also comedy doesn't tend to work when overexplained, thank you for coming to my TED talk)

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Uncontroversial because the democrats suddenly stopped caring about drone strikes, illegitimate wars, the Patriot act, and gitmo once he was electedm

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is absolutely just a regurgitation of people saying Obama's biggest scandals was the pants he wore. The joke doesn't have a punchline otherwise, barring missing context that you should have led with if there was a misunderstanding.

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Isn't the punch line holding that belief? As in she was being sarcastic in saying that the sauce was the worst thing he did. It is an absolutely absurd belief to hold and thus humorous

[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I mean... sure? But that comment written by that particular person I can not see how it can be interpreted as a criticism against Obama. Unless it's a kind of 4chan humor, which is shameful to understand anyway.

[–] LeateWonceslace@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Never argue with someone from Hexbear. They're all at least comfortable with being in a community overrun by tankie trolls.

[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

But OP never made any argument, so they are fine. :comfy-cool: :tank: :troll:

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

This comment is a great example of the "insight" that you find on that instance. Random insults that don't make much sense unless you uncritically agree with the most boot licking China / Russia defenders.

It's not insulting, it's just boring. It's like bots repeating old Chapo comments from different articles, none of which make sense.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

I see it as mocking conservative news networks that acted like it was a controversy. Which you absolutely can do and still believe Obama was a bad president or whatever.