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U.S. household debt increased by $185 billion in Q2 2025, reaching $18.39 trillion.

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[–] PMmeTrebuchets@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So when's the debt bubble going to burst? Because this obviously isn't sustainable

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

It's all according to plan, next the debt can be bought, and lead people into slavery.
I'm personally saving up to make use of that opportunity when it arises. IMO the future looks amazing!
/s

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would it burst? Human history is filled to the brim with times where one a few lorded over the rest.

People got caught up in the left vs right and not the up vs down.

Tax wealth, not work.

[–] generallynonsensical@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you think it scales with population growth and current communication methods? Genuine question.

We have 8 billion interconnected humans on the planet now. Not just a few farmers and peasants. I feel these are different times.

History is repeating, yes. But I think it's a mistake for those few lords to assume everything will roll back a century or two. The people (those who dont want to be ignorant) are informed and well armed these days.

Edit: grammar and typo

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All I know is the super rich are only getting richer and are brazenly controlling politics now. Their level of control over the populace using nothing more than bot farms and incredibly cheap influencers makes me think this is only getting worse.

I'm not seeing how this goes well any time soon unless governments are the writing on the wall and tax wealth. I'm pretty aligned with the whole Gary's economics YT channel at this point.

Good points.

I have faith in humanity. Perhaps misplaced but still there. Making people feel helpless is 90% of their game, with the other 10% making them angry. We just have to hope there's enough white hats and brains left to counteract the propaganda machines.

Elbows up. Be well.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thats the neat part, it doesn't!

What does burst, instead, is the average net worth of Americans / Households.

We are at something like 10 to 15 % of Americans with a negative net worth right now, more debt than wealth.

So, welcome to the semi-formal birth of the debt slave social caste!

Ain't nobody working the farms no more, and indentured servitude is explicitly legal in the US as punishment for a crime.

If your crime is avoiding debt collectors long enough that they file a lawsuit against you, and you don't show up to court, well now you have an active arrest warrant.

And soon, probably also a non voluntary vacation to a semi-local farm.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, if we end up in runaway inflation - and that’s very possible, because the people running this place would have trouble assembling a Duplo set - we’ll all be able to pay off our debts for pennies on the dollar.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are partially correct.

The problem is that you assume that during hyperinflation, you do not also have a massive rise in unemployment.

Historically speaking, this is a very noncredible assumption.

Also, even without that... you are still assuming symmetric inflation, broadly the same, everywhere.

That isn't guaranteed at all, this is another historicslly noncredible assumption, there's no fundamental reason that wages would not continue to increase by far less than every other daily cost of living.

So... sure, if you can survive that, remain employed, and your wages increase by more than the APR on your debt, oh right and dodge all the bank failures potentially wiping out your savings... uh sure ues then your plan may work.

Oh! Yeah, gotta also hope what is almost certainly your primary investment ... your house... does not collapse in value in real terms.

Uhm, roughly half the US is currently undergoing a massive housing market crash, so, again, not a great assumption.