The NATO intervention in Yugoslavia was hardly to prevent a genocide unless you believe the US suddenly started caring about Muslim life - and then went on to maraud across the middle east leaving a trail of bodies in its wake.

There's documented accounts of displaced Romani having to pretend to be Kosavar Albanians because there was zero humanitarian aid available for people not of the chosen ethnic group of the day.

One of the most interesting facets of the NATO air campaign is how they managed to demolish all the state owned factories and infrastructure, but leave the ones owned by westerners.

There's also another issue with what NATO did to Serbia - Kosovo voted to unilaterally secede. I can think of at least one other prominent example where another territory did just that and it is seen as totally illegitimate by basically everyone in the west. Which is it?

The Taliban harbored al-Qaeda which used Afghanistan as its base of operations when it coordinate the 9/11 and 7/7 terrorist attacks. So yes.

The US was their first backers, getting 9/11'd was just blowback for shitty decisions made decades ago, and murdering a bunch of Afghanis and Iraqis was hardly defensive. We totally had troops guarding poppy fields and oil derricks for like 2 decades after as a part of that "defensive" operation.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I can think of at least one other prominent example where another territory did just that and it is seen as totally illegitimate by basically everyone in the west. Which is it?

separatist regions of Ukraine? Haiti? Northern Ireland? there's so many good options to choose from

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The NATO intervention in Yugoslavia was hardly to prevent a genocide NATO values human life, including muslim people. I won't deny conservatives in western countries tend to be anti-muslim. I'm going to evaluate Yugoslavia on it's own context and not based on wars in the Middle East.

One of the most interesting facets of the NATO air campaign is how they managed to demolish all the state owned factories and infrastructure, but leave the ones owned by westerners.

This sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

There’s also another issue with what NATO did to Serbia - Kosovo voted to unilaterally secede. I can think of at least one other prominent example where another territory did just that and it is seen as totally illegitimate by basically everyone in the west. Which is it?

Oh, if you mean the Donbas region, those elections were a sham. It's best not to believe Russian propaganda.

The US was their first backers, getting 9/11’d was just blowback for shitty decisions made decades ago, and murdering a bunch of Afghanis and Iraqis was hardly defensive. We totally had troops guarding poppy fields and oil derricks for like 2 decades after as a part of that “defensive” operation.

We were attacked by state sponsored terror. The war in Afghanistan was defensive. Iraq not so much, like there were never weapons of mass destruction.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

quoting Parenti here:

The confederation of Trade Unions of Serbia produced a list of 164 factories destroyed by the bombings, all of them were state owned. Not a single foreign-owned firm was targeted.

What's really wild is how the geniuses at NATO managed to drop 5 JDAMs on the chinese embassy in belgrade,"why does nobody like us" shocked-pikachu

our glorious free democratic elections

their sham elections

You're a fucking parody lmao

We were attacked by state sponsored terror.

Literally all of Americas victims can say the exact same thing

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of us is definitely a parody, but it's not me lol.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's a handy guide for you explaining your views in the future: us-foreign-policy

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Lol