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The bang syntax makes duckduckgo easily the best search engine - it's a shortcut to everything, the perfect gateway to the internet.
Until you try kagi
Serious question: why should I pay for a search engine? Sounds like just another subscription that'll enshittify like all the others.
I tried it for a few months it frankly was just objectively worse then using duckduckgo/bing.
It was just pissing money into a hole.
I have a very different experience: duckduckgo only succeeded in simple queries for me, anything complex failed and I had to switch to google. And Kagi works for me even better than google.
Do you mind giving me an example? I have issues with technical questions but with enough coaxing I could find what I was looking for.
I have switched a while ago and don't have specific examples at hand. I do use quite some technical questions for work, and struggled with getting answers to them from duckduckgo. Kagi barely ever needs coaxing, and when it fails I can't get results from google either.
They have a direct incentive to care about your interests unlike all other search engines which make money through ads.
I know the appeal of cynicism, but it’s not the best long-term strategy.
Unless you rely on the goodwill of people running open-source searches like SearxNG, you’re paying for your search services or providing them with reasons to enshittify by blocking ads. On google, duckduckgo, and many others you pay with your attention to ads and with your data. They have the incentive to keep you longer on the search page to show you more data, contrary to your goals. For Kagi makers the way to get rich is much more straightforward: make good search and get many paying users.
They make quite a convincing argument here IMO.
I would much prefer this business model for online services. I pay, they provide a service.
No collecting data, targeted ads, etc. Just a yearly payment for a year of service.
It's ridiculous how bad this situation has become without any meaningful regulations.
Brave has it too—but yes, I couldn’t imagine using the internet without bangs.