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[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I personally think like the complete opposite - if there's anything that's a waste, it's a beyond meat burger, because veggie burgers are like, really fucking good. Why on earth would you settle for an inferior pretend product when you can instead have a really good thing that's not pretending to be something else?

Miss me with that fake meat stuff and bring back actual veggie burgers! I got a real nice sweet potato and refried black bean one I've been working on for a while now

[–] Drev@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100% agree. The imitation methods used in all of the vegan "meat" products just are not near good enough. My ex made me try a bunch, they varied from a little off to just plain gross. Even though I approached each one with an open mind, not a single one was enjoyable. It was actually really hard to keep an open mind after a while, having been either disappointed or disgusted 100% of the time in the past.

However, chickpea patties? Delicious. Black bean burgers? They're usually pretty decent too. There was one veggie burger we tried that had portobello mushrooms as the main ingredient, and it was the most delicious veggie burger I've ever had, hands down. It was so savory and juicy, and the texture was excellent.

I just wish these companies would just focus on plant based products with great taste as their main goal rather than trying to imitate meat, because they're just so astonishingly terrible at it.

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've just realised that most people kinda just add the beans in direct which isn't what I meant. Whoops - yeah nah I turn them into refried beans and add them in. Directly throwing in black beans never seems to work in my opinion. Also a big fan of just like, making a really big aloo Tika (an Indian potato cake) and using it as a burger. They're really good and the burger king where I live used to actually sell them as their main veggie option before BM muscled all the decent veggie options out. Falafel burgers are also really good, but alas they're kinda a lot of work because of all the soaking and deep frying.

My holy grail of veggie burgers is this one spinach burger I had all the time as a kid because they always had leftovers of them at school sausage sizzles and I'd get the extras for free. It was probably some deep freeze bulk thing but goddamnit one day I'll make a spinach burger that doesn't taste like some sort of goddawful diet thing.

Also honestly in general fake meat in general just does not do it for me. I'd rather eat a dish that's veggie and works with that to make something different and good instead of trying to make a subpar copy.

[–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Just eat a falafel sandwich. Why do you need or want to call it a burger?

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's def subjective but I've never been a fan of the blackened bean burger as a hamburger replacement. I wasn't that impressed with the bm burgers but the impossible burgers are a fine replacement imho.

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This isn't a hamburger replacement this is a homemade burger where the beans taste like beans and are mainly there because I like homemade refried beans and thought they'd be good as a burger

Also impossible burger beyond meat sale difference. It's all fake meat that could be better replaced with something that just isn't pretending to be anything

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I tell meat eaters and vegetarians the same thing about this.

"Do not compare this to the best meat hamburger you ever had. Instead pretend its a completely new food that you've never tried."

Treat it like a protein option and stop trying to force it to be just like something else. It is very similar to meat in many ways, but it isn't meat. I don't consume much advertising so I don't know if the companies are selling it and saying that it's indistinguishable.

It's not "fake", it just isn't "meat".

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@Squids

Meh, I don't like mushrooms and really don't like the black bean burgers and haven't liked any other veggie burger I've tried, but the Impossible ones I can hardly tell the difference from cow, so ... why wouldn't I choose the impossible when given the opportunity?

So, for me, I guess the answer is that if I want a burger, I want a burger, why would I go for something that doesn't taste anything like a burger?

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there's like a difference between a beef burger and the platonic idea of a burger. Like if I say I want a burger, you're not going to fault me for buying a chicken burger are you? Even though it doesn't taste anything like a regular beef burger? Same deal with veggie burgers. Meanwhile if I order a burger that looks like beef with the expectation that it will taste like beef, I'm going to be upset when it doesn't taste like a nice beef burger but instead a rather shitty one

Also there's tons of veggie burgers out there, maybe you just gotta try some that aren't like, the weird "healthy" options that dominate the search results. Stuff like a big ol' falafel in a bun or deep fried aloo tika.

...also I don't actually like beef burgers that much

[–] misnina@crystals.rest 1 points 1 year ago

you're not going to fault me for buying a chicken burger are you?

There are TONS of people who will do that exact thing. what is or is not a sandwich or burger (is a burger a type of sandwich?) for some reason is a stupidly contentious topic that people feel passionate about.

People take labels and their individual expectations of that label pretty emotionally.

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I fucking hate those slabs of vegetables and shit. They're disgusting. I'll eat regular burgers but I like these ones a lot too

But mishmashes of veggies on a bun? No

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Real veggie burgers never left. Quinoa burgers are amazing. Still love Beyond Burgers but veggie burgers do add a nice variety.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Why not both? :D Cause sometimes I feel like eating this and sometimes I feel like eating that

[–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Garden burgers are the worst. Portabella is good. Even boca burgers are okay. Impossible is far better than Boca though.

[–] Falmarri@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

because veggie burgers are like, really fucking good.

In what world are veggie burgers good? I don't want quinoa in my fucking burger.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1000 to 1 you just haven't had a good one.

[–] Falmarri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you consider a good one? Bean patties aren't burgers.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not a brand but restaurants or homemade. Lot of different ways to do it but that's like a master cooking class in itself.

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...I don't think I've ever seen a quinoa burger that's like making a burger out of rice or couscous.

Also man, there's tons of good veggie burgers.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It just has quinoa in it. There are lots of other ingredients as well.

I would bet money that most people who hate the idea of a "quinoa" patty don't eat quinoa and likely don't even know how to pronounce it.