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McSweeney's bringing some hard truths with this one. We could all be doing better.

You forgot to go back in time and tell people that subsidizing the oil industry might be a bad idea.
When the oil and auto industries teamed up to bend public policy to their will, making a system of roads and parking lots that now function as a continuous subsidy and magnificent symbol of the normalization of injury and pollution, you had a lot of options. You could have objected. You could have shifted public opinion. Instead, you weren’t even born yet. And, rather than go back in time, all you’ve been doing is riding to get groceries and occasionally saying, “Please stop killing us.” On the effort scale? 1/10.

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[–] Zeke@kbin.social 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I was hit on my bike while heading to college. Simply crossing a crosswalk with a stop sign and someone decided they didn't feel like stopping while I was already crossing. I now live with back pain. Drivers can't be trusted to follow traffic signs.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Yes, but I once saw a cyclist run a stop sign. These two things are obviously exactly equal, and bicycles are just as dangerous as cars. I am very smart.

[–] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hmm.. Have we tried painting lines?... we should paint lines... let's paint lines. Problem. Solved.

[–] Rusky_900@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

That's ridiculous. LINES WONT STOP CARS! Only if they paint the ground near the edge a different colour will it be safe to cycle on roads.

[–] rexxit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In most states, riding a bicycle in a crosswalk is not legal, and you are not considered a pedestrian that cars are obligated to yield to. I was taught at a young age to dismount the bike and walk it across for this reason.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Holy shit, your country is deranged

[–] tekcaj@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will say that, especially in college towns, this does not always hold up legally. My buddy got hit by a car on a crosswalk (they rolled down the window and told him to watch where he was going, while he was on the ground); and even though he was on his bike, the cops took his side.

[–] rexxit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Courts have also ruled that cops don't have to know the laws, and they are given broad discretion to ticket/arrest on any pretense that seemed reasonable to them at the time. It doesn't mean the law allows cycling in a crosswalk. Everywhere I've lived treats bicycles as non-pedestrians and doesn't afford the same considerations to them as someone on foot. Bikes are considered a type of vehicle.

I don't think that's totally ridiculous, but there are some effects that are: running a stop sign on a bike can be a moving violation that counts against your driver's license, and cycling while drunk can and has been charged as DUI. I think that's absurd.