No - that would only be true if both OS are equally secure in the first place. No matter how you behave you are limited by that. So equal behaviour on each system does not yield the same result.

Freedom is not security or privacy, but sure you (or someone else) can change your dialer on android and that can’t be done on iOS.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Freedom is not security or privacy, but sure you (or someone else) can change your dialer on android and that can’t be done on iOS.

Technically you're right, but I guess op meant that that freedom let you degoogle the device pretty easily, which turns it so much more private.

Talking about privacy on stock OSs is a waste of time because we all know both Google and Apple are getting lots of data from their avg user.

[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Technically you're right, but I guess op meant that that freedom let you degoogle the device pretty easily, which turns it so much more private.

That is what I meant

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m not sure you can compare the is to each other. It’s like comparing Ubuntu to Windows and say they are equal as you can demicrosoft windows.
I’m not sure you can compare apple to Google either. One gives away their os for free and make their money from user data, the other charge their users silly amounts and make their money from devices and cuts of app publisher’s sales. To me that’s a big difference.
As any user can install an app that “takes over your internets” without rooting there’s only trust keeping other apps from doing the same. Customisation comes at a cost, and many people don’t understand that.

[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Apple does still spy on the users (like scanning their files to pretect the children)

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not sure you can compare the is to each other. It’s like comparing Ubuntu to Windows and say they are equal as you can demicrosoft windows.

That's simply not true. You can install either Linux or Windows on your Desktop, but when you buy a phone you basically stuck with the OS. (You can flash LineageOS but it'll still be android)

I’m not sure you can compare apple to Google either. One gives away their os for free and make their money from user data,

Not sure it's true either, I heard that companies have to pay for Google for putting Google services on their smartphone lines. I might edit to add a source later.

As any user can install an app that “takes over your internets” without rooting there’s only trust keeping other apps from doing the same.

But when it's open source and reviewed, while being backed up by bodies like mozzila (looking at you rethinkDNS), it's way better than your other options. Also, if you don't trust and app just don't use it? Web versions are good enough for most cases. And there you have Mull (hardened ff for android) with uBO to protect you.

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

This is pointless - I don’t agree to the view that iOS and Android are equal - anymore than windows and Linux are equal.

The same goes for the companies behind - one sell devices the other sell ads through their free services.

The customisation you speak about is the same like what browser-bars introduced on pc’s ages ago. Some users have a good working one, but non technical people can end up being tricked in adding one without understanding. That is why it has a cost - nobody can easily swap out the dialer on iOS to listen in. On Android it’s standard functionality