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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you are in favor of keeping an underclass of people that you can threaten with death to force them to work?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Having an underclass and (monetarily) coercing everyone to do their fair share of work to meet everyone's needs are two very different things. If I need to spell that out for you, you may want to think about these things and how they would look in practice a bit more for yourself before discussing them.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A billionaire's family isn't under threat of dying if they don't get a job. They already have what something like UBI would give to everyone else. The only way to use pay to force labor is to have people so poor that not having an income would lead to their death.

That is called an underclass.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone refusing to work would always lead to everyone's death. Blame God for making reality this way. People must be coerced to work when needed.

But you immediately jumping to the opposite extreme case as if there were only two options shows you have no interest in actually understanding what I am saying. Can't teach someone who doesn't want to learn. So I think we are done here.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People must be coerced to work when needed.

This right here is where you go wrong. It is simply untrue. You're just using it to disguise how much you want to advocate for slavery.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is it untrue? And how is working to secure your own needs slavery? Are you living in a fairytale world?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Feigning ignorance? Okay, slaver.