This conversation is over. Understanding that while russian deaths are tragic, Ukrainian deaths are both tragic and unjust. There's a difference. Lamenting that war and its effects are awful is natural but while it is still ongoing people need to be clear when pointing out the tragedy that it is in no way implying defenders should be guilty for their actions (not saying anybody did). Russians are going to die every day they insist on occupying Ukrainian soil. This is an unfortunate, but also necessary fact. Any further dialogue on this gets bans.