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LOL have you seen where all our futuristic tech is manufactured? Why don’t you look into solar panels for a great example. Who’s making and selling them? Hm? Hint: it’s mostly not the US.
Also, if you think life in the US is “futuristic” compared to Germany and Japan, then it’s obvious you haven’t traveled there.
Because solar and chip making is pretty hard on the environment. We don't do it here cause you need to process the waste to make it less toxic, so instead we buy from places that don't care.
Other countries have lots of advantages over the US, but let's not pretend that it's a utopia over there. Japan is so overworked and makes immigration so difficult they basically don't have a next generation.
Germany is great and all, but they also have a lot of imports, heck they almost froze last year due to their over reliance on cheap Russian fossil fuels.
Now you’re just naming any off topic problem you can think of with those countries.
Japan’s immigration policy is a choice, and they’re paying the price. It has little to do with how advanced they are in terms of research and technology.
Germany’s insufficient domestic fossil fuel supply is fucking geology. Hooray the US has rich fossil fuel resources. So does Venezuela.
So what does any of this have to do with how high tech life is in any of these places?
Gosh we’d better not look at high end manufacturing or the state of public infrastructure or rail transit in these same countries, you know, something actually on-topic having to do with level of technological advancement.
Germany gave you the COVID vaccine, by the way. The words you’re looking for are danke schoen.
Do you enjoy not knowing what you're talking about?
Intel, GloFo, TI, Micron, ON Semi, and NXP all have semiconductor foundries in the US.
One of the ten largest photovoltaic companies is based in the US.
Biden just dumped untold billions of USD into building out more domestic semiconductor and photovoltaic manufacturing capacity.
To be fair the majority of those things are still produced abroad, particularly Vietnam has a lot of semiconductor manufacturing, and biden dumping money into domestic production is specifically to try and fix the problem of outsourcing
So somewhere else is doing the dirty, laborious part and we're getting the benefit?
The other person said "and not benefit from it". That's what I responding to. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that kind of outsourcing to places with exploitative treatment and lax environmental regulations is a good thing in general.
I didn't say anything remotely like that.
Of course you did. It’s right there. You balked at the idea of Germany and Japan enjoying “amazing futuristic technology” compared to the US.
You have a very active imagination.
You also 100% missed the point I was making, which is that western countries like the US didn't lose the benefit of that technology. Nothing I said had anything to do with 1) saying other countries have relatively less technology or 2) being opposed to other countries having equivalent technology. Is it possible I have some kind of opinion on that? Maybe, but I didn't share it. If you want to know what I think about something, you could try asking me instead of just fabricating an alternate reality out of the ether.
With some exceptions (like trade embargoes, military secrets) if you can pay for it, you can get your hands on any technology that exists in the world.
Silly me for thinking I was learning your opinion by reading words you wrote. Don’t wait around too long for me to come asking for more of your opinions.