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Democrats Are Already “Moderate.” It’s Not Working.
(jacobin.com)
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some of them propose some of that some of the time.
FYI that user is incapable of seeing any of the obvious flaws in the dnc. Especially if it is related to any of the times dems have compromised with gop on terrible bills or policies
He's actually for the horrid GOP bills when Democrats sign off on it. Or they wrote it because the same lobbyists pay for both parties. But horrid bills are good when Dems do it.
According to the dems never put out bad bills, only gop introduces bad things 🙃
Never ever, just don't ask who wrote and voted in KOSA, censoring American internet "to protect the kids".
Or voted for the patriot act, or Iraq war or more recently to not renew child tax credits
And they still don't understand ACA was rebranding of Romneycare
There's been multiple times the dems have capitulated in negotiations before the negotiations have started.
If there was no gop we'd still get terrible bills from the right democrats
It's amazing how the only period you ever reference is when with a short super majority only managed to implement Romneycare.
Biden was a moderate, Obama started leaning progressive but quickly ran to be a moderate, both Clinton's more on the right than moderate, etc.
We've had this conversation before. They literally used Romneycare as the base for the ACA. The biggest reason ACA is hated is the parts pulled from it. Also why gop can't replace ACA because it's already their solution
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/23/451200436/mitt-romney-finally-takes-credit-for-obamacare
When they're still required to pay private insurance to be covered yes.
Yes forcing people to pay corporations to get Healthcare is conservative.
The only good part of ACA was forcing coverage of pre existing conditions. Rest just gift to insurance companies
Yes when you ignore the mandate forcing everyone to get insurance it looks better. Especially when ignoring the states that didn't go for the medicaid expansion simply to spite people.
Still the non moderate position in the rest of the world is universal Healthcare of makes sense why our center right parties refuse to actually go for it.
No this is why we need a progressive or leftist party in charge not dems or gop
Love that's the only part you seemed to read there
That is the enforcement, you get fined without it
It was originally a penalty and still is in certain states.
https://www.healthinsurance.org/faqs/is-there-still-a-penalty-for-being-uninsured/
YeahI know. That is every interaction with you because you can't understand dems are right wing and moving faster to the right
Yes because the ACA is a right wing plan. The moderate position in the world is universal Healthcare.
Ffs they are still only doing please drug and insurance companies let our citizens pay a little less for the drug and research our government funded. See Bidens medicaid/Medicare price negotiations.
Performative acts, like biden on the voting rights bill, they tried to introduce it and the senate filibustered and biden said aw shucks. No fight on any issues, no threatening federal monies to be rearranged to encourage support, no digging dirt and disgracing some of tje worst.
They do the bare minimum to trick people like you into thinking they give a single fuck about you. I'm sorry, but that don't. The Democrat party is owned by wealthy interests that unlike the Republicans are smart enough to give the working class enough crumbs to keep society from collapsing, but that's not enough to energize people to vote anymore because life just keeps getting harder and harder for the average American even when they're in charge.
All that isn't to say that people shouldn't vote for a corporate dem when it's that or a republican, but you're completely blind if you can't see that there are real problems with the party that are contributing to their losses.
Abortion rights (and everything else that was a constant campaign point for both the rs and ds) were hanging by a thread on supreme court decisions for years and years. They had decades to actually legislate them.
2010 was 15 years ago, They haven't done or said shit Since then on healthcare, and what they ended up producing was a fucking handjob to the insurance companies. They refuse to confront drug companies, Healthcare companies, or trusts operating in every sector of the economy.
That ignores them not fighting, so long after the fact I do not care to describe once again what I mean by that, but I should not have to describe to you how to play politics. We need strong leadership and we have not had that.
Everything continued to get worse so why don't you give it a rest. If pretending like these Democrats were doing a good job worked we wouldn't be in this position. Stop trying to bully everybody into anything like this is an acceptable job.
I don't even know what you mean there. Giving the DNC more than 48 seats in what?
They honestly believe only thing wrong is not enough dems. They cannot comprehend dems as a whole don't want to help us
2021 they had 50 or more, 2008 they had 60 before kennedy got brain cancer.