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[–] the_procrastinata@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that all sounds very reasonable. My only quibble is that it should be affects and affecting Melbourne.

[–] RustyRaven@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will trust you on that and change it - that is one grammar thing I can never really get my head around, no matter how often it is explained!

[–] omoikiri@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely ignore this if it’s over-explained and you don’t care, but I thought it topical considering your username here, but do you know the RAVEN hack? I used to use it back when I taught ESL.

Remember: ‘affect’ verb. ‘Effect’ noun.

So when it’s the verb, the ‘action’ word of the sentence, it’s ‘affect’, like: ‘it really affected me’ And when it’s a noun in the sentence, it’s ‘effect’, like: ‘the after-effects were really bad’ or ‘the special effects in this movie are great’

So in your sentences: ‘things happening in and effecting Melbourne’ ‘Happening’ and ‘effecting’ are the verb forms here, so it should be ‘affecting’

‘…around things that effect Victoria’ Again, ‘effect’ is the verb here, so it should be ‘affect’ If it was something like ‘the effects of the flooding on rural Victoria’, then ‘effects’ is correct, because it’s a noun.

[–] the_procrastinata@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

It’s funny how some grammar rules just won’t stay in your brain! I remember it as being: You affect the effect. You affect something is the action, the effect is the result.