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[–] llama@lemmy.zip 56 points 10 months ago (5 children)

If Lemmy is supposed to be the place where the most tech savvy people in the interest congregate, and everyone in the comments is unsatisfied with AI then we really do have a problem. These companies have all reached a point where they no longer listen to their most informed customer base but instead take 100% of direction from investors who don't even know what they want except a line going up.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 15 points 10 months ago

Investments and income have been divorced from reality for a while now, bud.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Eh. Lemmy has a lot of ignorance surrounding technology and science compared to other sites. Hacker News is what you're looking for if you want somewhere that is full of the most tech savvy people on the Internet, and most of them are extremely pro AI (with some weird AI cultishness alongside). Myself I think AI is a bubble but there is a lot of promise in the underlying technology once you take away the hype, just like the .com bubble at the turn of the century.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am not sure if you have discussed AI in a room full of hackers recently, lol. I have. Maybe 1/100 is pro-Generative AI in my estimation:

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Hacker News is a site full of tech cultists and apologists.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

Lobste.rs is probably even more on the "engineers talking to engineers" side of things. I've not visited in a while and am not sure what people there think of (the current crop of gen)AI.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was the place for people who didn't want their shitposting interrupted by random child porn. Am...am I in the wrong place???

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately Lemmy is rife with CSAM too, but the larger instances have done a pretty great job eliminating it.

Smaller instances still get dumped on sometimes.

Edit: actually it feels like it’s been a year or so since any CSAM spam events, so good job everyone

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with main post and agree with edit. I've only seen abuse material on Lemmy once and it was on an instance that didn't have an automated moderation tool for image uploads and they promptly added that mitigation step after it happened

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Suddenly I’m extremely worried about using lemmy. What’s the right way to respond if something is seen. Call the police? FBI hotline or something? Certainly screenshotting anything to send to authorities is out of the question but as soon as an image is loaded a device downloads it to cache so it’s like a dirty bomb just sitting on your device at that point. I have been blissfully ignorant that anything I use in my day to day would ever share a space with such abhorrent behavior. Kind of not sure I should still use the service, like that has actually been an issue on here before?

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're fine, they go after the ones sharing it, of course if you want to tell authorities you can, just you're not going to get in trouble for accidentally stumbling upon some asshat being a pedo. It does very much keep me from wanting to run my own instance though.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you got the comment, I never even considered the risk as someone running an instance.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, unless you prevent image uploads it's possible and easy for someone to put that shit on a drive you own which then means you're technically distributing and harboring it.

Scary stuff

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Happy to say I haven't seen that shit here yet...unlike Reddit and 4chan.

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Same, and additionally, no one so far has been randomly extremely misogynist toward me either. I can mostly say completely uncontroversial things like "women fought for their right to vote in the early 1900s" without getting 30 bad faith and whataboutisms in my replies. It's sooo nice.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a man, I'm happy to know that about Lemmy.

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 10 months ago

It's a night and day difference from reddit. I hope it lasts forever!

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let me mansplain to you why it was actually the 1920s, and also something about sandwiches. PENIS POWER!

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your user name made that much, much better

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't femsplain away my super awesome masulinipower. I am penis, holder of dick. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago
[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

It’s always interesting to read the experiences of others. The one and only time I stumbled on cp was in the late 90s. Haven’t seen it on reddit or lemmy. Our bubbles keep us isolated.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If Lemmy is supposed to be the place where the most tech savvy people in the interest congregate

Says who? Mostly feels more like sales than R&D here. Which kinda fits with these pitches.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like someone working at the pointy end of R&D in AI isn't necessarily well placed to predict the future of AI.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bubble is an econ term. Whether there is an AI bubble has a rather tenuous connection to the future of AI. Not much of a connection between the housing bubble and the future of housing either.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Feel like the internet bubble is an even better comparison, the internet is completely ubiquitous now

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes but my point is, a brick layer isn't the best person to ask about the future of housing.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Feels more like the brick layer is equivalent to someone paid to create training data. You absolutely would want to ask the architects and engineers researching no ways in housing and construction. Not that they know what avenues of research will work out, but they do know the avenues of research.

No one expected the splash that LLMs or image diffusion models would make. Years later, the conversations on Lemmy are still dominated by people who still haven't looked up how they work.

GPTs completely nuked the whole field of natural language processing (NLP). People had dedicated years of their lives to solving tiny aspects of that. That got solved practically over night. Sentiment analysis? Just ask the chatbot. Some of the seemingly smart people who make seemingly informed criticisms of LLMs are NLP guys, who just can't let go of their old ideas.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is not the most tech savvy people on the internet nor the customer base for AI. Where did you get either of those ideas?

[–] llama@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because you have to be tech savvy to understand what the fediverse is or how ActivityPub works so it sets the filter for a userbase that evangelizes emerging technology.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah. Signing up for a social service doesn’t make you the most technical person in the world.