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submitted 10 months ago by Red0ctober@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

NEW YORK — Leaders of Young Republican groups throughout the country worried what would happen if their Telegram chat ever got leaked, but they kept typing anyway.

They referred to Black people as monkeys and “the watermelon people” and mused about putting their political opponents in gas chambers. They talked about raping their enemies and driving them to suicide and lauded Republicans who they believed support slavery.


I'd love to say this surprises me, but it does not in the slightest.

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[-] ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip 37 points 10 months ago

It’s amazing to me that there are genuinely this many white nationalists/nazis irl. I honestly had no clue people were this awful and prevalent.

I’ve never seen people more openly willing to hate other humans based on race, gender or sex.

Why do we get to exist as a species if we are this toxic to ourselves?

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago

Hating and differentiating people based on race is pretty rational as long as you believe race is a real thing. That's kinda why it's called race-ism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

Race is a thing. It is a social construct, but it's a thing.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

There is only one race: the human race.

Everything else are variations.

(Not counting other species of course)

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Ok, but that doesn't mean that the concept of race doesn't exist in the minds of most humans. Unfortunately.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Exactly - just because a thing is a social construct, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or that it somehow doesn’t affect people in real ways.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Racism is a real thing. Culture is real. Nationality is real. Ethnic heritage is real.

But race is not, in the same way that my made up category of "things that i think are bad" is not real. Yes, it exists, I guess for some people. But as a universal concept that is solidly definable, no.

Wanna try? Define me a race.

[-] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Beings are only a different race if they can not produce an offspring together, as I recall from school 🧐

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

You're thinking "species". And even then it isn't cut and dry.

And it might be that they're sometimes able to have offspring, but the offspring is sterile.

I am not a biologist though, and could be wrong.

[-] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

Yea, seems I recalled wrong xD

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I'll grant "differentiating", sure, but hating? Hard disagree.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

People end up hating/rationalizing people being bad because they believe they believe people are different races.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

There's a big difference between something being rational and being able to rationalize it.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago
[-] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

People are very very awful. The internet reveals their true selves. That’s why Ultron wanted to end humanity.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Not necessarily, I dont wanna be that guy but I was joining in with the edgy racist shite on 4chan about 15 years ago because I thought it was all humour. Its possible a lot of these are just edgy teens thinking its all japes. I mean if its not, fuck them right off, but there's still hope that theres not as many truly awful people as might seem.

I gave up on 4chan when I started realising it looked like I was the only one laughing.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

See, the thing is, though, this stuff is poison. It's locker room bs at first, but, fundamentally it's tribalism and deviancy division between in-groups and out-groups.

The more you dig and learn about psychology, sociology, and history, the more you ☹️ because you realize.... It's us.

My partner and I were just talking about deviancy theory earlier today, and were discussing whether or not technology has moved too fast. Yes = our brains are lizards and the internet is amplifying our current weaknesses as a species. No = ?

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, but THIS prevelant in real life was a suprise.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

We do give them a lot of attention. We should but we also need to remember how badly they see out numbered

[-] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 1 points 10 months ago

We might very well be solving that problem ourselves right now.

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