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submitted 1 year ago by hereforawhile@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

What's the closest thing we have to a perfect private messanger?

In my mind the perfect private messanger is both completely secure, and also completely anonymous.

All the mainstream messengers can pretty much ensure the contents of the message will not be revealed....but that is not good enough. I want to be able to deploy and establish a completely anonymous AND private channel of communication on a dime without having to jump through extreme operational security hoops.

Does it really exist?

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[-] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

SimpleX is currently the best one possible.

All the security of signal without needing a phone number.

Everything can be through tor. Contact link can be formed with a one time use code that you DM someone privately.

Anything more advanced and you're basically in internet dead drop territory. An encoded message on a pastebin through tor. Congratulations, you've entered pedophile/terrorist level security realm.

[-] hereforawhile@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Simplex does check alot of those boxes... but smp traffic is easily identifiable unless your jumping through the major hoops of establishing a totally anonymous proxy.

An encoded message on a pastebin through tor. Congratulations, you've entered pedophile/terrorist level security realm.

Thats to bad being anonymous and secure puts you in that category. It shouldn't!

[-] Jecogeo@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago

Why not XMPP? Its anonymous, E2EE, etc.

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago

I use XMPP and it's good. SimpleX is even better at anonymising meta data afaik

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