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Unlike the rest of the rifle. Which is perfectly safe.
The rifle as a tool is just as safe as a log splitter, wood chipper, machete, drone, or the 3000lbs car you hurdle down the highway at 80mph. It’s the operator of those things that can be dangerous.
Bumpstocks, however, make the weapon discharge unexpectedly and is stupid to own or operate.
I hate that argument. I think we can all agree that while all items you listed can be dangerous... Only one is manufactured to intentionally be a weapon. I haven't seen very many wood chipper attacks on schools lately.
Thanks for the laugh, friend. What a great movie.
Tucker & Dale vs. Evil (2010)
…but you’ve seen a rifle take itself to school and start blasting? Recently I’ve seen a guy plow a car into a group of peaceful protesters and I’ve seen a pack of drones fly themselves into Russian bombers.
Even countries that don’t allow citizen weapons are armed to the teeth because their neighbors are as well. The first time I saw an assault rifle in real life was on some sort of police at a TGV station in France… and if your argument is “yeah but they’re trained police and militaries”, those are some of the most unhinged and unstable people I’ve ever met.
I know we need stricter gun control laws, and I know that societies without citizen weapons have lower to no mass shootings. I know we need free/low cost healthcare. I’m arguing that there’s nothing more dangerous about a rifle over other things in your garage but bump stocks make a rifle dangerous and unpredictable.
I'm not going to argue about who should or shouldn't be permitted to own firearms. I grew up around them and in general don't have issue with them. (On a side note: I do have a problem with firearm tough guy culture) I do however think it's silly to pretend they aren't manufactured as weapons and pretend that normal tools and objects are on the same level as them. They are designed to kill.
Funny you compare fire arms to cars, because I believe that both fit in the category of "things your average person should not have in public". I want more regulation on guns AND cars.
And just because nitrous mods are illegal, doesn't make your average car any safer.
Agreed. Fuck cars. Going from LA to SD on the train is so much more peaceful, has WiFi, 120v, the right of way, and beautiful views.
About nitrous, I knew an Impala guy that pulled us out of the office one day and opened his trunk and points to a spare tire on top of a perfectly carpeted and mounted box. Says “do you know what that is?” Ummm, you’re hiding your no2 from the cops? “How did you know!?” Idiot.
A machine specifically designed to kill is not a "tool", unless you count it as a tool of destruction.
Counterpoint… Hunting and gathering. That animal you’re eating didn’t kill itself. My trowel kills some of the plants I’m harvesting, and a fruit starts to die once it’s cut from the vine. Destruction is necessary in life. It isn’t automatically an “evil” word. We as a species wouldn’t exist without destruction, death, and decomposition.
Now, whether the existence of humans at all is a good thing, is a question for Nietzsche and Douglas Adams. We aren’t the greatest.
The cool part about fruit as a food source is that the plant literally makes that part to be eaten, for seed dispersal.
I will never drink civet coffee. I don’t care if my 110 year old Asian auntie demands it, I’d rather take a house slipper to the ear than drink a cup of shitty coffee.
I... mean, that's cool and all, but I just meant that the destruction of nature involved in eating (wild) fruit is limited to something benefitting the creator of that food, rather than killing it.
Show me a log splitter or wood chipper that can be used to kill dozens of people in five ten minutes.
Machete you're still probably only get a few.
Drone? Not unless you strap an explosive to it.
A car is the only one that can even remotely cause mass casualties.
"Just as safe" is an extremely bad faith argument if you even have a basic understanding of guns. Even accidentally, when is the last news story where a five year old Suzy accidentally threw her brother Tommy in a chipper.