Vaccines work, I am far from anti vaccine. If the government procured the vaccines and were using them across the population, then I would be all for it. When you add a £100 price tag into the equation then you take more time to consider your options.

There is one thing that is indisputable regarding the drop in cases which can easily be matched against hospital admissions. When everyone was tracking covid infections with tests hospital admissions went up at the same time as positive covid infection went up. We do not have a credible method of tracking infections because of the reasons I have already stated, with the exception of people who are suffering so badly that they need to be admitted in for professional care. We are being asked to ignore what I see as a credible data source at the same time as vaccines have become available at a cost.

If you wish to track the data then by all means fill your boots: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

If you want the advice she is given to be taken with more ardour from myself, then give me something to see with infection rates, deaths or recorded issues.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

but this has a bad smell of fear mongering to sell vaccines around it for me.

This is rude and dangerous af. This is what I'm concerned with. Dr. Pagel has no connection with the pharmaceutical industry, so this is also just entirely misinformed. It must be nice to just shoot from the hip and not have to back up your assertions.