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TBH I don't care about a 2018 lead, I want to see the 1975-1979 lead where the Democrats gain supermajority. I want to see 1894 type of numbers where the overreaching party who implemented tariffs see a 100+ seat loss.
I want every single Republican out of a job.
100+ seat loss isn’t possible in the US. City/Suburban ideology is the polar opposite of the rural one. Our system gives disproportionate voices to people who live in rural areas. Young people today have left their rural communities for the cities because it’s not possible to lead a comfortable working life in rural America anymore. The Carter flip was only possible because the democratic base was diffused across many rural counties; that’s not the case anymore.
That's not the question. The question is "do a lot of rural folks think people they dislike are getting hurt more than said rural folks are getting hurt?".
I live in a pretty rural area and my anecdata is I keep seeing fewer and fewer trump signs and trump merch around. Actually I'm not certain if there's any houses I can think of that still have their Trump stuff up at all, and some of these houses have perpetually had trump signs up since the primaries in 2015. There were certainly fewer signs during the election in '24 than there were in '16, and they came down far quicker. Most of the trump signs were down within a couple of weeks just leaving folks trump flags and merch which have slowly been coming down over the last several months
"Anecdata"!? I love it, where did you get it?
I honestly can't remember. There's a chance I made it up, but it's a little too perfect so I probably read it somewhere like on a reddit thread a long time ago or something
I've been very worried about the mentality that, just because a MAGA has internalized one single mistake or fault in the Trump party, that they will ever actively champion or vote for the "Evil Demon-crats". Many of them are just going to become "enlightened centrists" that feel both sides are corrupt.
Maybe this is being a bit too optimistic here, but if such a break happens where MAGA swears off the Republican party and the entire party crumbles it's a good opportunity for a new party to form to the left of Democrats
This is exactly my experience with these kinda people. Many of them see the negative outcomes and are glad that outgroups are suffering, even if they are feeling negative effects themselves. I think there’s a long way to go before they feel like they can’t take it anymore.
It literally happened in the exact example I gave. Only 35 seats total are up for reelection in the house but I was being clear about what I wanted.
That’s not possible though because the electorate makeup of rural counties has changed so significantly. The 76 election was 51 years ago… lots of things have changed in that timeframe. 51 years ago, California and Vermont were Republican strongholds, and Missouri was a powerful bellwether that was only wrong once between 1904 and 2012.
Who are you to dictate what I desire?
There is no such thing as city/suburban ideology. Sure, cities and rural areas are different, but if Trump screws them both, they're both capable of voting against him.