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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by artyom@piefed.social to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Recently I was locked out of my own Ghost blog platform because they decided they were going to add Email 2FA. I also cannot add any other authors because that requires email verification.

Today I was looking at installing Bonfire and came across this:

Bonfire requires working email for user signups, password resets, and notifications. Most installations will need email configuration before the instance is usable.

Setting up email is a pain in the ass, costs money, is dependent on 3rd parties, violates privacy, and is just completely unnecessary. Why wouldn't you give users the option to not use it? It's infuriating!

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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most people have no idea they exist.

That is my point.

If you write software, and need a way for it communicate with the user outside of the app, implementing email is simple, just about everyone with internet access has an email address and it is free.

XMPP/Matrix is a lot of added work that will only benefit those who:

  1. Knows what they are and
  2. Has or are willing to set up an account and
  3. Care enough about it to do that rather than just using email.

I think you will find that the groups of persons who all three critera fits is vanishingly small.

So, please tell me why a developer should focus their time doing that rather than building the core features of the app.

EDIT:

I write this as someone who has used Jabber/XMPP and Matrix in the past, they are great services and I wish they had a longer reach. This is not a hill for you to die on.

this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2025
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