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[–] StarManta@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago (38 children)

Trying to claim the term “Web3” is a futile battle. It is already widely understood to mean crypto and blockchain. If I see a job posting that says the company is built on Web3, I know immediately that the job is built on scams and grifts without having to ask further questions. Web3 as a term is ruined already.

For this to work it must be a different term than Web3. Maybe “Web 3.0” is different enough?

[–] kimpilled@infosec.pub 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I suggest forking Web3 into at least three competing things

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

as long as they all compete to be the standard, and aren't going to communicate with each other well, I'm in!

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 6 points 1 year ago

Can Web3-D be unnecessary VR integration?

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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just do what USB does and call it "Web 3 v2"

[–] vidumec@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] kimpilled@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

Note that not all Web 3 v2 final (1) features are required to be labeled Web 3 v2 final (1). Please consult vendor documentation to determine which features are supported on their device.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Web 3 v2 final (1)++ Remastered Advanced with Knuckles Pro Edition

[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 2 points 1 year ago

Is it the Japanese Director's Cut?

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

also Web 3.0 was already a thing (semantic web), cryptobros just stole the term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

Which is pretty much what activitypub is a part of.

[–] cxfredeper@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Web x" is dumb marketing speak. It exists because people who use the phrase can't intelligently talk about the actual underlying technology.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

I think it's useful terminology, but only very generally and in hindsight. Web 1 is a pretty clear era in the 90s and early 2000s, characterized by simple static blogs and personal websites, and email. Everyone knew this would be big, but nobody figured out how, that was the dotcom bubble. Web 2 began with the rise of big tech companies like Google and Facebook in the late 2000s, it has been characterized by social media apps, centralized platforms hosting user created content, funded by targeted advertising and data mining. Web apps became possible and smartphones took over. Every product became a subscription service.

I think we're at the start of web 3, but it's hard to say what that is yet. The big tech companies are crumbling and there's increasing unrest at the old system of web 2. Fed up users are turning to platforms like this. There's a lot of demand for crypto nonsense like NFTs. AI is changing the way we do everything.

I hope that web 3 is the age of decentralization because that would be awesome, but it's impossible to predict the future.

Abusing terminology, especially by marketers, is frustrating and cringe. But don’t underestimate the value in having a simple, shared term to describe a paradigm many things fit into.

[–] AndreTelevise@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Or perhaps Web 3.1. But seriously, I would call it the Federated Web.

[–] Getallen@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] wtfeweguys@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t quite put my finger on it but something about this doesn’t sit right with me

[–] Getallen@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago
[–] antisuck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Web 3.1 for Workgroups?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's not a bad idea but federated is the term they're using to tell everybody not to get off reddit because it's too confusing.

I think whatever name you give it they're going to try to sell it as being too confusing.

You could call it distributed web but they'll taint that as soon as you stick it in front of them

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Blockchain and crypto are both decentralized, which is exactly what Web3 is defined as. Just because they came before federated websites doesn't mean the definition is exclusive to them. I would call "Web3" ruined, rather I would say that ActivityPub is the first great implementation of it.

PS: The distinction between Web 3 and Web 3.0 is giving me some real USB 3.2 Gen 1 vibes.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Web3 usually means it's decentralized. So yes, in most cases it's cryptocurrencies

[–] explodicle@local106.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But most cryptocurrencies aren't decentralized!

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? That's the whole point of crypto currencies.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 6 points 1 year ago

Not the scams, which are most cryptocurrencies.

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Web 3.0 was the semantic web.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How about Fweb or Feb?

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