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Now, that seems not to be a quote from somebody involved, but a quote from Politico, but with that in mind....
What kind of person does something with the expectation that they might need a pardon? Only people who think they might be committing a crime. You know, criminals.
And I would argue that if they were committing crimes with the expectation that Musk would secure them pardons from Trump, that is describing a conspiracy that includes Musk himself. (As well as Trump, but it wouldn't be possible to charge him with that, given a recent Supreme Court ruling.)
If I was the next president, I'd have everybody from DOGE on federal charges as soon as was feasible, including Musk... Although given Trump's health, the next president will likely be Vance. I wonder what the odds makers put on Vance being the next president.
Ah, but they’ve already claimed that Musk wasn’t part of DOGE and he’ll claim that the employees were making assumptions and he never said such a thing. And he’d probably be correct; Musk is much better than Trump at weasel wording things.
Doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a meticulous investigation though.
I don't doubt that Musk is better than Trump at any sort of intellectual pursuit, but that's only because Trump is that much of a dumbass. I mean, Musk seems to be able to read at a reasonably adult level.
Musk frequently says and does quite stupid things that involve him or his companies in legal peril. He's famous for over-promising and under-delivering, and not via weasel words, but being specific. I think he gets away with it more from having good lawyers than from him acting any more intelligently than the average person.
Like Mueller or Garland? 😟