149
submitted 10 months ago by BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

If you have to use a government ID to access the internet I don't think there'll be a way to subvert it. The tech fixes like face recognition and age inference can probably be spoofed, but IDs seem rock solid unless you steal someone else's ID.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago

It'd be government ID to access sites hosted in Australia from Australia, but if the internet shows you accessing sites from say Vietnam, or accessing a site not hosted in Australia then what's the government going to do?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

They could require an ID to connect to the internet.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Technically they already do, if you you're the account holder

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

This ID is already provided with a credit card number TBH and any other info needed to setup a ISP or cellphone plan, but there are ways around that.

One is purchasing a month to month phone plan with cash for example. Or finding open wifi networks and routing all traffic through a personal VPN or a commercial VPN.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

That's not how the law is written, onus is on social media sites, they haven't banned under 16s from the internet, just from social media.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

And the social media sites, in the interest of complying with the law, might make deals with the internet service providers to actually put an ID check on every internet connection. This isn't impossible.

Even if they don't, once legislators realize their law didn't fix the problem they can always pass new legislations.

My point is that this isn't impossible.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 0 points 10 months ago

Service providers can't verify individual users, its arguably harder for them to do that than it is for social media site operators

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago

They could, we'd just need to hand over even more of our privacy and rights.

Which was always the plan.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 0 points 10 months ago

That's not what's been proposed.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

In order for social media sites to actually be able to enforce this law it's the only thing that would work. They might feel pressured to make deals with the internet service providers to actually implement this kind of ID check for internet connections.

If they don't, it's only a matter of time until some country does pass such a law.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry, this is baseless supposition.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 10 months ago

People will bypass any barrier they put in place. Hell, that's how I got into IT.

[-] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Somebody's IT department put up barriers, which you bypassed to force your way into the job? Is the willfully incorrect way I chose to read it.

"I hacked their system and put myself on payroll, issued myself an ID, and started showing up to work."

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 10 months ago

Not at all. My stepmom was the head IT person for a school district and I was getting around the blocks she put up on our home internet.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Haha my mum (a primary school teacher at the time) was made the IT person for her school, but that was only because she had a son (me) who liked to fix computer problems for fun

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It would be pretty easy to subvert tbh for anyone tech savvy enough.

It's like bypassing windows 11 "cloud account" and using a local account instead. If a person cares enough to ask why someone needs a cloud account to access their own PC.

For ID verification a personal VPS purchased in another country and routing all your home network traffic through that would bypass any ID checks. Also offline copies of websites and downloading content through P2P or usnet would be visible in obscuring your "viewing history".

And porn can still be purchased or shared on bootleg DVDs.

this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2025
149 points (100.0% liked)

News

39433 readers
1687 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.


Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.


7. No duplicate posts.


If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.


All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS