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Portainer on Debian or Proxmox? (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago by damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Folks,

I have an Intel N5095 2 GHz box, with 16 GB RAM and 500 GB sitting below my desk. It's a teeny tiny box with no fan or anything.

I'm currently running Debian server on it with Portainer on top to run some *arr services. I'm thinking of running some more. But the device seems to groan under the weight of the services already running.

Was just watching a video about proxmox, and it seems to be a better solution if I don't need to run Portainer on top of an OS. Maybe it'll be lower resource usage?

So, thoughts? Should I change it up from Debian to proxmox? Or should I stick to what is already running? I am running Debian because I read somewhere that it's the lowest resource hog of all Linux server options.

Alternatively, should I stick to Debian and portainer but use it with something like podman as it might use less resources than docker-ce?

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[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Could you tell me more about the non standard implementation? Coz I just use composerize to convert docker run commands to compose (or if I find compose files then hooray!) and pop those into portainer. Seems to work fine. I don’t like that a lot of features seem to be hidden behind a costly subscription, but thems the brakes.

As for proxmox… is it lighter weight than Debian?

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Could you tell me more about the non standard implementation? Coz I just use composerize to convert docker run commands to compose (or if I find compose files then hooray!) and pop those into portainer. Seems to work fine.

Portainer is generally fine, but if you decide to migrate away from it, you will basically need to rebuild your whole compose stack setup.

I don’t like that a lot of features seem to be hidden behind a costly subscription, but thems the brakes.

Yeah, that was a big reason I moved away from it myself. They used to be way more flexible, but started really clamping down on free users a few years ago.

As for proxmox… is it lighter weight than Debian?

Proxmox uses Debian as its base OS, and since Proxmox is built to run full VMs, it isn't really comparable to running Docker containers on bare metal. You can run multiple Docker stacks inside a VM (including Portainer) - I do this with several VMs. But running a full VM inside a hypervisor on top of already-stressed hardware is probably a tall ask. So in your case, I would stick to Debian with Docker on bare metal.

The other thing I'm curious about - are you running a desktop environment on this machine? Or is it running headless? A DE will take up a lot of resources that the N5095 is already short on, and that CPU isn't exactly a great contender for streaming, either... It tends to fall on it's face if running much more than a single stream - including other services.