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China, whatever it is, doesn't wage direct wars abroad and kidnap random presidents. Well, for now, at least. But seeing there is no accountability, they will certainly consider it much more seriously.
They're openly threatening to invade another country and they're in a hybrid war with almost all their neighbours. Plus, they've been enabling the Russian war in Ukraine from day one. They're not in a position to be starting wars just yet but it's certainly not for lack of trying. And you can ask the Uighurs the Tibetans, the Mongols and a lot of others what they think about this.
Ohh, the rich who were monetarily affected by Chinese policies that made the field more level and then tell tall tells as CIA prefers.
Here's another perspective, if you can bother: https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China
I invite people to compare these two pages. I really don't care to hear from any yanks on this.
You see, it is possible to resent both countries' ambitions on other nations and global hegemony. You dont have to whatabout when someone points out that China is no saint either.
What are you even hoping to achieve here? Make the reader say "oh well, guess what China does is okay then"?
My point is the USA is a warmonger who needs to be treated as such. Further, you are aware that the beginning of this thread is literally a yank doing a whataboutism in the opposite direction? Why don't you go whine to them if that bothers you so much?
Because they have already been ratioed and corrected in their perspective by other commenters.
I do of course entirely agree with you that the united states under current leadership are wildly untrustworthy and a potential danger to anyone who has something Trump wants. Scared for Denmark.
Not only your point, but also China's point. I think it is fair to talk about the wrongs of China when they point the wrongs of the US. On the other hand, since I am not from either country i feel they can endlessly point at each other because it might fuel the desire to be better. And both China and the US really need to do better when it comes to abiding to international humanitarian law.
This is a perfect example of the pot accusing the kettle, that saying is exactly meant for 'whataboutism in the opposite direction'.
I'm not the one who complained about whataboutism. I pointed out that it's hypocritical to whine about me doing it if you're not also going to whine about the original commenter doing it. Which is fine, it's legal to be a hypocrite. One should own it, though.
https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang
It is certainly possible to resent both, it is however pathetic to resent both equally, when one is 100 times worse than the other.
"This man just murdered my mother, but fuck the guy who's calling him out, he slapped me once 30 years ago"
While i would agree that at the immediate present the u.s appear to be the more belligerent and unpredictable actor i believe that there is not a lot of room for nuance in terms of aggression towards other sovereign countries. They are all unacceptable to me. The US should stay the hell out of Venezuela, Russia out of Ukraine and China out of Taiwan, to use the most current examples.
I believe there is a lot of room for nuance when we start counting victims. To me, the Nazis are not functionally the same to Poland, even if Poland invaded Czechoslovakia together with them, because Poland didn't murder tens of millions of people. To me, the USA murdering tens of millions of people (38 million through economic sanctioning together with the EU since 1970, and 500k more every year) is absolutely horrifying and incomparable to anything else today except possibly the genocide in Gaza by Israel
It is just a threat right now so mihies is right for now
You. First one to the gulag.
Definitely. And our tankie friends here will be happy to volunteer as guards.