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How do I avoid becoming one with the botnet? (programming.dev)

submitted 6 months ago by bitcrafter@programming.dev to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I find the idea of self-hosting to be really appealing, but at the same time I find it to be incredibly scary. This is not because I lack the technical expertise, but because I have gotten the impression that everyone on the Internet would immediately try to hack into it to make it join their bot net. As a result, I would have to be constantly vigilant against this, yet one of the numerous assailants would only have to succeed once. Dealing with this constant threat seems like it would be frightening enough as a full-time job, but this would only be a hobby project for me.

How do the self-hosters on Lemmy avoid becoming one with the botnet?

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[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Just use tailscale and don't forward any ports and you'll be fine

[–] k4j8@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

There's a lot of technical answers here, but Tailscale is what you want OP. Self-hosting is only a risk if you open ports. Tailscale doesn't require opening any ports.

Alternatively, you could set up your own VPN and forward one port to the VPN. The risk of port forwarding to VPN such as Wireguard or OpenVPN is minimal.

The risk of being attacked applies to those that port forward web traffic so it can be accessed without a VPN by themselves or others. If you don't do that, the risk is very low.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is it bad to forward ports temporarily to game with friends? And deactivate after?

I dont have the energy to learn new fanglad networking since everything is so insecure now...im used to 2009 servers.

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No?

I mean, how else are you meant to play the game actually?

I guess you could be like opening ports just to particular IPs. And you need a game that isn't Swiss cheese that gets immediately hacked.

But like hackers don't sort of seep in through port forwards; they need to physically identify and exploit a particular vulnerability.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Ah. Well mostly it's for voxelibre or armegatron nowadays

[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not really complicated at all you just download the tailscale app make an account and then hit share to your friends. That's how I run a Minecraft server for me and my friends because I was too lazy to figure out how to port forward. It was easier to just sudo apt install tailscale and essentially be done.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

That sounds so easy my friends could do it! Ill need to read up

[–] dieTasse@feddit.org 2 points 6 months ago

Exactly what I wanted to say + don't install something you don't trust.