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[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 99 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Speed limit is enforced by road design, not by signs

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You’re suggesting they add even more potholes to motorways?

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 year ago

Context is 20 mph steets, making them more complicated and narrower forces drivers to slow down to not hit anything. Straight and wide streets allow drivers to speed as they feel comfortable.

Motorways on the other hand encourage to speed with wide lines, long view distance, long turn radiuses, hard shoulder and long paint stips

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A center line with floppy cone-pole things, barriers on the side (such as planters)(bonus it keeps pedestrians and cyclists safer and beautifies the area)

Etc

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

More round a bouts.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think its by fines actually.... Just got a $609 USD speeding fine... I speed less since then

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Intuitive system suggesting correct behaviour is more effective than system encouraging to break law and them punishing for it severely

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

If a pilot repeatedly ignored their equipment and flew too low over populated areas, they'd lose their license in a hurry. When you pilot large, deadly equipment out in public, that comes with the burden of complying with all regulations, whether they feel necessary or not. If the general public thumbs their nose at this idea, that just underscores that it was a mistake to let pretty much anyone drive whatever they can afford however they want unless a cop is looking. We have to reverse that mistake instead of tinkering around the edges to occasionally slow people down by a tiny bit until they get used to handling even your traffic-calmed section of roadway at high speeds.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, but if you start whatever car based countries biggest dig of the century to reconfigurate it all this minute it'd still take you 30 years and it'd be nice for non car users in the meanwhile to not get killed

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that is a lot of money (for me and presumably you), but without proportional (to assets) fining it makes laws pay per use. In otherwords, money is not a good judge of character; people can have disposable income and ignore the same fine that changed your mind about speeding. And as another commentor said, preventing is better than punishment.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And doing both would be even more effective.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

Did you read my comment? Fines (unless proportional to personal assets) will not be effective against rich folk (who can afford large obnoxious dangerous cars), effectively creating a pay to use law.