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Most people don't turn to violence even if an idea they hold dear is attacked.
Are you suggesting that we hold Muslims to a lower standard than that? If you do, then I think that's pretty racist of you.
I include Muslims in "most people". My point is that the gov't shouldn't give in to a violent minority, because everyone should be held to the same standard.
Or perhaps "Just stop oil" should start bombing and killing to get some results?
Chill. Your interpretation is that I didn't, But I did. It might not have been as clear as it could have been, but typing on mobile is annoying.
If I suggested that we should ban meat eating because it offends vegans and some might turn to violence amd terrorism you'd call me crazy. Why hold Muslims to a lower standard than? Are you suggesting that they are incapable of controlling their emotions and that others should therefore change not to upset them?
But those are the feelings of vegans.
You said you weren't interested in debate and you would just block people. Now you're a fool and a liar.
Meanwhile over 200 people of muslim religion or from predominantly muslim countries were murdered by nazis in Germany since 1990. Anders Breivik murdered over 70 teenagers as part of his anti Islam ideology in Norway.
Burning the book is the predecessor to another wave of killing people associated with that religion mostly because they are "brown".
i absolutely agree. But the answer is to prohibit eithers hate speech in public.
Most opposition is unrelated to phobia, or intents to instill hate and violence. On the contrary, actually.
Your attitude will prevent you from learning, and lock you in a perception which you seem to despise. This is sad for everyone, but mostly for you.
No. With 'On the contrary' I meant the other side, which inhibits the attributes you were talking about. They are afraid someone might not share their belief and values. They actually hate that, and frequently resort to violence up to burning buildings and killing people. To be safe, some of them. Most are chill.
This attitude is what justifies the protests from my point of view. I don't want to cave in to such encroaching demands.
Not that part. What I meant is the unwillingness to discuss and the willingness to block. I mean, it's literally ignorance. I also feel "my attitude to behave respectfully towards different beliefs" has some ironic vibe, given you voice it right after you announced your readiness to shut down discussions with different beliefs.
To be fair, I'm not sure if you were only specifically talking about one particular group of people, actual islamophobes. I got the impression you generalize it to the point that anyone who's fine with Quran burnings would be an islamophobe. If I misread this generalization, my apologies.