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Amendment proposal: Free Internet (piefed.blahaj.zone)

submitted 5 months ago by queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/actual_discussion@lemmy.ca

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I'd like to propose an amendment to the list of basic human rights. I think we need to add internet access. Everyone on earth, every person, deserves to be able to get on the internet and talk to whomever they wish. Every person deserves access to the internet's public repositories of information. If someone chooses not to use the internet that's fine, but anyone who wants to talk, or listen, or argue, or make weird art, or ask for help, or offer help, deserves to.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Could definitely use some better wording, especially this part:

Everyone on earth, every person, deserves to be able to get on the internet and talk to whomever they wish

This could easily be interpreted as it being illegal to ban someone from any online community or website, or even to block them at a user level. If you block a user's posts, then they can no longer talk to you, which would violate their right to talk to whomever they wish.

So... Scammers, trolls, spammers, AI slop bots, corporate accounts, etc. could all claim they have a right to talk to you over the internet, and any attempt to stop them from doing so is a violation of their rights.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, there are going to have to be policies that protect against harassment, including spam. I'm not technical enough to know how to draft those policies, but I think the gist would be that even if you have the right to send messages, no one has any obligation to listen, or continue to listen, or host them on their servers. Malicious activity that disrupts common spaces or others' servers (like DOS attacks) will need some kind of protection. I imagine it would work a lot like federated servers do now: anyone can host a server and say what they want, but other users (and servers) have no obligation to listen to them, rehost their content, or interact with them in any way.