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In many parts of Europe, it’s common for workers to take off weeks at a time, especially during the summer. Envious Americans say it’s time for the U.S. to follow suit.

Some 66% of U.S. workers say companies should adopt extended vacation policies, like a month off in August, in their workplaces, according to a Morning Consult survey of 1,047 U.S. adults.

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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (11 children)

They have dropped that "take a month off" thing like it's some crazy regular thing that happens.

I don't know about the rest of Europe, but in the UK you normally get 25 to 30 days of Annual Leave, companies often give extra days for long term or exceptional service, some have salary sacrifice options to buy more. Where I work you can even win some in charity raffles. The expectation is that you book them in advance with your boss when you want to use them.

If you want to save it all and take a month off then so long as the boss is okay with it, then off you go. But you won't have any leave days for the rest of the year.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's double the amount of time off I have here in the U.S.

And I only get a week of paid sick days, which I've already used up due to an illness which hasn't even been properly diagnosed yet.

I even have to make up time if I go to the doctor.

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the UK the government mandates that your employer pay you whats called statutory sick pay for up to 28 week should the illness require it, which is a minimum of £109 a week.

In addition, your continued employment by the company is protected and they cannot fire you for being sick.

In reality the company will often support staff members for much longer if needed. That's just how things are expected to be. I've had a member of my team go on very long term sick with leukemia and he was supported by the company for over 4 years while he was in and out of hospital, letting him work part time and from home when he needed to, at his discretion.

Expectations on companies here and the protections offered to worked in regards to thier employment and unfair dismissal situations puts the "land off the free" to shame

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not surprised. I would honestly move there tomorrow (my father was English and I was born before the 1980s cutoff, so I could get citizenship), but I don't want to abandon my dogs.

[–] feyo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not take the dogs with you, if that is „all“?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well, I don't know UK law, but generally that means putting the dogs in quarantine for months and I don't want to do that to them.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yep - it’s a tired misconception I first encountered working for an American 20 odd years ago.

While it’s true that it’s difficult to get much out of France Spain and especially Italy in august - it’s because it’s holiday season - not because everyone is gone for a whole month

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cool, I get zero sick days and get paid a lump sum "vacation" bonus every year equivalent to one week's salary.

I get no real paid time off otherwise

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago
[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

25 days off is 5 weeks (because days off would only be the work days.) That's over a month.

Most positions in the US seem to give 10 days of annual leave a year. Some may also include sick pay as well.

[–] statues_lasers@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It’s even more than 5 weeks if you take days off adjacent to bank holidays. One can easily stretch it to 6+ in many countries.

[–] Haphazard9479@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you get paid during your month off?

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago
[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Finland you get paid 1.5x your normal monthly salary in the month you are in vacation. History of it is that to ensure you continue working after the vacation.

Edit: it is not in the law, it is just something that unions have negotiated

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think its a Federal requirement to offer employees any vacation or sick leave in the US. For many office jobs you have to earn leave time over the course of months or years - it's not unheard of to have zero leave time the first six months of employment.

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paid sick leave, no, but your job is protected by FMLA.

[–] Haquer@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

It's only protected by FMLA after you have worked there for a year, because fuck you I guess.

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

25 to 30 days of annual leave is unheard of in the US. And it translates to 5-6 weeks, which is well over a month. It's common in a lot of European countries to take 4 of those weeks off in a single continuous summer break, usually August (some prefer July to avoid the August crowds). Yes, there's a misconception that everyone in Europe takes August off, it's ultimately up to each individual how they allocate their days off, but there are companies that do assume everyone will take August off and all but shut down during that month.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I’m also from the UK and not sure where tf this “August off” thing is from, whether it’s something other European countries do.

People usually take 1-2 weeks off at a time for a holiday then the odd day here and there, a month is ridiculous.

I was gonna say that you’d burn out if you used up an entire month at once, but I guess Americans would be used to that kind of shit anyway.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here in Germany taking 3 consecutive weeks off is pretty normal, for me that's also the maximum that I can take off in a row without jumping through additional administrative hoops. A whole month isn't normal, but it could certainly be arranged

[–] Jagermo@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Same, we have to cover about 4 weeks of closed child care and 6 weeks of closed schools. So we take a bunch of our 30 days and turn them into a 3 week stay somewhere.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like so many things in the minds of Americans, when they think of social benefits in Europe, they think of Sweden.

In Sweden it is actually not unusual to take 4 full weeks off every year in Summer. Especially if you have kids. Can be even 6 weeks for some years if you still got enough parental leave to take. And that is in addition to time off around Christmas, although then maybe not more than 1 1/2 weeks or so.

[–] eramseth@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Parental leave? Lol

[–] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Same in France.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

If you want to save it all and take a month off then so long as the boss is okay with it

Yeah, most bosses aren't ok with that.
Where I am now I get two consecutive weeks max