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Every single republican president in my lifetime has left office to a recession. Yet the average person is so brainwashed by corporate media that almost everybody thinks that conservatives are good for the economy.
The bottom line is they hate the United States and the Constitution. If they had their way back in the 1700's we'd still be paying taxes to the king of England. I like to remind them that during the revolution the Founding Fathers would have been called radical left lunatics by the conservatives of the day.
I disagree, it's just a divergence in belief in what America truly is. The sad fact is that their portrayal of America may be closer to the truth.
America was primarily built by rum running slave owners who hated paying taxes. It was founded by rich men to protect the interest of rich men, and not a lot has changed over time.
Maybe if you only read the popular history about people like Benjamin Franklin or Hamilton. In reality most of the founding fathers would be seen as rabid libertarians by today's means. Some of their ideas about religion would seem liberal, but you would have to ignore issues like slavery, the brutality towards native populations, women's suffrage, voting rights for the poor, and taxation to label them as leftist in general.
I feel that you probably agree with the sentiment but you just want to say well achtshually
I think it's an important distinction. They loath the general population of America, but love America as a country because it facilitates their wealth.
I also heartily disagree with your characterization of the founding fathers.
That's the one that blows my mind. I'll be talking to reactionary centrists (that are probably voting Republican at least sometimes) and they will often concede a lot, but then say something like, "yeah, but at least Republicans know how to run an economy"?
It's like...in what fucking universe? They like to point to Covid as somehow bringing it all down for poor PEDOnald, but cannot really show how he was remarkably better than the economy under Obama prior to Covid? Also, they cannot really point to what policy of Biden's was so bad for the economy?