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[–] uis@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Artificial drinks, not caffeine? Coffee is artificial drink too because it is human-made.

It nearly impossible to define energy-drinks in a way that does not include coffee, but include off-the-shelf drinks.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Coffee has its beans dried and roasted, then ground and seeped in water. If you're going to call that artificial, then you are claiming that literally any cooked food is also artificial.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Coffee has its beans dried and roasted

Coffee beans are dried. Then beans then ungo a Maillard reaction, caramelisation, pyrolysis and decarboxilation to form new organic componds

then ground and seeped in water

Then ground to maximize the surface area. The prouder is then extracted using unpure H2O as solvent. A higher temperature is needed to raise the solubility of the compounds.

[–] noli@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can describe anything that's consumed by people with chemical terms and it's gonna sound unnatural.

You remind me of that old joke site warning people of the dangers of the chemical compound DHMO (dihydrogen monoxide)

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that's basically the point I try to make. You can't even say it's not synthetic since you're synthezise new compounds in the first step. There really is no real difference artificial and natural.

Let's take Vanillin (vanilla flavoring) for example: you could extract it from Vanilla, but it's pretty expensive this way. You could also just synthesize it from wood pulp and get the exact same compound. It's not even just similar, no, it's the exact same.

If something is natural or "artifical" doesn't say anything about how harmful it is.