At least with the Conservative floor crossers, you can see how they would get the idea of Carney maybe helping advance their ultimate goals. But this does not make sense to me. The way Carney is governing is pretty much at odds with Avi Lewis-type policy.

[+] bayleaf@piefed.ca 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

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[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Being the one crucial vote is a hell of a lot of leverage.

You can't apply it all the time but still, that's a hell of a lot of power. And if anyone has the mandate to push a handful of things farther to the left, it'd the NDP convert.

(I'm assuming the two basically safe Liberal seats fall Liberal and PQ wins Terebonne (sp?))

[+] BinzyBoi@piefed.ca 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the erosion of the NDP like this

The erosion was the vote collapse, not this.

In the federal Democratic Party down in the US you have a progressive wing of the democrats. How much have they been able to accomplish within the party?

Out of power? Fuck all. You might as well as what the harder right part of Poilievre's flank has accomplished.

Before that? Basically universal healthcare.

You can move the Liberals left by opposing them

And risk everything against an ascendant populist right? This feels close to "I'm fine no matter how the election goes, fuck the vulnerable and others who have to deal with the generational consequences, we need to say and a message!"

[+] BinzyBoi@piefed.ca 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

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[+] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca -8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Sorry, this reads more like ai campaign slop than a response.

It's also, at earliest in a Canadian time zone AFAIK, 1am when you wrote all that.

Goodnight.

Edit: To those annoyed. Look, the beginning was silly (what creates a middle ground? Two different positions, one being the progressive wing's!) And then was a long ramble about how the NDP would be good for the vulnerable which is to completely miss the point and reads like they just copied and pasted something.

I'm protective of my time and I imagine others are too.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The person you're discussing this with is clearly more knowledgeable than you are. So you resort to "they must be a bot." Good grief. Blocked

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 0 points 5 months ago

It's more they went on a semi random tangent about the NDP for the vulnerable, which is not the point.

It's like Pam Bondi being surprised people laughed when she brought up the DOW in the Epstein committee.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Being the one crucial vote is a hell of a lot of leverage.

Yeah, by being the tiebreakers the NDP was in a position of power. But not anymore, with this floor crossing. So I don’t understand this. The NDP could have still helped Carney out where they felt it appropriate

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 0 points 5 months ago

Voters would not forgive a party, especially on the Left flank for putting us in an election right now, especially when the Conservatives look strong.

But a member of the Liberal party...

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Agree, but I want to note that PQ is a provincial party, I think you're thinking of BQ.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 5 months ago

You are 100% correct!

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

In both cases she's supporting the person with the most power