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In China, It’s Already Cheaper to Buy EVs Than Gasoline Cars::undefined

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[–] gornar@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Meanwhile where I am in Canada, with massive amounts hydroelectric power: "bUt tHe gRiD!"

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The dam electricity has to charge the damn car but the damn grid is inadequate ….

I can believe it. Massachusetts has been try to buy some of that sweet dam Canadian hydro - apparently there is plenty but no damn transmission lines to get it here. And the damn nimbies in Maine and New Hampshirite have no incentive to let us build Dam power lines

[–] AirlineF0od@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

A certain amount passes through anyway, but how much water has to be let through a dam to charge a car?

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The grid still has to get the electricity from the dam to the end user.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and the electric company is handsomely rewarded for providing that service.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can have infinity watts at the power dam but the grid to and in your town can still have capacity issues.

This should not be hard to understand.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nor should it be hard to understand that power companies are not stupid and already have a roadmap for renewables (solar, hydro, wind etc.), energy storage, EV charging facilities and other 21st century concerns. They are not blindsided by this change and are looking forward to it.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's as if you haven't read the original comment this thread is about but just want to argue for the sake of arguing.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually I have and I'm also aware that electric companies including in Canada have roadmaps out until 2050 to accommodate not just EVs, but the transition to heat pumps, renewables and all the rest.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See, you just need to argue more, then the grid will have capacity by the time you're done arguing.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about arguing but stating a fact. Power companies have roadmaps for electrification and removal of fossil fuels. EV adoption isn't something they're not preparing for. It's very easy to search this out.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Again, you're here to argue and have fun with that. You're arguing they've planned for this in a thread about the grid being unable to cope. I don't see how you're doing anything but spinning tires in mud.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

You can have infinity watts at the power dam but the grid to and in your town can still have capacity issues.

[–] luckyhunter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And fend off all the frivolous lawsuits from the fish huggers. In the US we have been dismantling hydro dams for years instead of building more.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, long inactive hydro dams are being taken down. These are the kind that incorporate none of the modern ecological improvements (fish ladders, aeration, etc), where the reservoir is not used for drinking water. Usually the reservoir water is chock full of excess nitrogen and other pollutants. These are usually defunct small-scale hydro plants that were formerly associated with an old-school river-side factory - the kind that now stand vacant or are converted into high end condos nationwide. Or are you talking about hydro dams getting taken down because the water usage was too great to sustain the reservoir because we've decided that the desert is a great place for agriculture?

But that's right, fuck the fish and aquatic life, we should invest massive capital on restarting decades dead microhydro plants.

[–] luckyhunter@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

While I'm all about killing the southern California agriculture industry, I'm more talking about demoing dams in historically great places for dams instead of replacing them, or upgrading them. There's hundreds alone on the west coast.