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EDIT: The only reason why I still had it at this point was because I could use it with other apps. However, now that my Spotify Subscription is cancelled, it doesn't work with anything. It's mildly infuriating because today, I can't still use it with other apps like I was able to yesterday.

Please don't make the same mistake I made. No one should buy this.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Spotify is a terrible option to use in 2023. I highly recommend Tidal for anyone with good headphones, speakers, Dac's, etc.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but even Apple music is a MUCH better solution right now.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, nah.

Spotify is fine. Apple Music is just the same but with worse music recommendations.

Looking into Tidal and it seems like a huge problem, who the fuck wants content exclusivity of songs? Its bad on consoles and it’s a fucking terrible idea with audio too. Can’t recommend anyone goes with them for such anti-consumer practices.

[–] SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 9 points 1 year ago

Just tried switching to apple music for the 10th time. Spotify is just so much better for recommendations and while spatial audio is neat the only way to find out if something is available in it is through the promoted playlists or playing the song and seeing if it says Dolby.

I have car thing and while it's better than pulling out your phone I still wish I had carplay. Have you tried "hey Spotify" on car thing? It hasn't heard me correctly a single time even parked with the AC off.

[–] _bug0ut@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Genuinely curious why you think Apple Music is better. When I got my first iPad in years last year, I decided to try to go "all-in" on Apple services partly to consolidate and partly to save some money. After about 14-21 days, the only service left standing was Apple News+ (and only because the only other option was NewsReader which is 3x the price and I just generally didn't love the UI and the way it worked overall).

Apple Music seemed to have slightly less of the music I searched for (I don't have specifics, it was a year ago) and also seemed to be slower/shittier overall than Spotify. It was just generally unpleasant to use - this, coming from a guy who has plenty of gripes with Spotify's user experience.

I'm all for ditching Spotify (I have all kinds of issues with their general business practices and how they stiff artists, among other things), but like @dinckelman@lemmy.world mentioned elsewhere in these comments: "every bit of competition is even more incompetent and greedy than they are." I'm not going to say Apple is more greedy in this case, but they felt less competent.

Spotify uses 320kbps ogg vorbis when on max quality, I would be really surprised if people could tell a difference compared to lossless.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like having a family Spotify account, it’s a convenient and cheap way for 5 people to listen to music. Why are they terrible?

Because people here like to shit on things that are popular.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They’re successful

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Much like movies and tv shows, I've just started downloading my music again and putting it in Plex. I stream it to any device that I can put Plex/Plexamp on (or connect my phone to). Not great for music discovery, of course, since it's only playing music you've added to your library.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The audible difference between Tidal and Spotify is way overblown even with audiophile quality gear.

Apple Music does sometimes sound better by comparison, but that's more to do with the fact that they tend to curate their music library with better sounding master recordings than it does with what codec/bitrate they use.

The downsides of AM is that it can be a pain if you aren't already in Apple ecosystem, and its suggestion algorithm often isn't as good.

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep I've tried them both and can pick between Tidal and Spotify when flicking between the same song but if played a random song on 1 service and not the other I can't pick it, Spotify is definitely good enough for me.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup, and even when doing quick A-B testing, it's usually a slight volume disparity that makes it possible to tell them apart.

The idea that Tidal sounds noticeably better because it offers FLAC instead of a lossy codec is pretty much a myth.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah. Tidal's collection is nothing compared to Spotify's and I, like most people, don't have the equipment to actually benefit Tidal's higher bitrate. I don't even have any wish to upgrade, I'm happy with Spotify's quality. I listen to mostly non-English songs and let me tell you, Spotify is miles ahead of Apple Music there. For English music, I find them mostly comparable. But Spotify has a nice Linux app, so they get my money.

[–] NoodleStar187@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Seconding Tidal even without hi-fi because they pay artists significantly better than most services but honestly I just buy my music individually like a caveman and self-host it.

I have to ask, what is your issue with Spotify?