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Ok, I'll give you a choice!
What great choices you have!
what your suggesting takes time and equipment (and some experience with seasoning). the time alone can make it cost-prohibitive.
many people still cannot afford it, no matter how your arrange the facts.
Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid.
money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day.
you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else.
your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives.
where did I say they are more expensive?
there are not billions of vegans.
i know. what's you're point?
why?
talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said.
characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker
i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context.
i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan.
it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan.
it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position.
i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts.
many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized.
You're being a bit too selective here. Let's be honest, there's a lot more to making good tasting vegan meals than just rice and beans. In general I've found that eating vegan is more expensive than the equivalent alternative.
If you want more people to eat vegan meals they also have to taste good, and you want to mix up your meals so you're not eating the same thing every day.
For burger equivalents any vegan meat alternative is more expensive than a regular burger (I'm really hoping that cultured meat can help turn this around).
For meat alternatives seitan tastes awesome, but it's way more expensive than most meat itself.
Tofu tastes great when you know how to prepare it well, and that's going to be closer to alternative meat prices.
Egg alternatives are more expensive than eggs.
For dairy alternatives, milk alternatives are more expensive than milk itself.
Vegan butter is more expensive than regular butter. Vegan cheese is way more expensive than regular cheese (especially if you want it to actually taste good). Vegan yogurt is more expensive than regular yogurt. Vegan mayonnaise is way more expensive than regular mayo. Vegan ice cream is way more expensive than regular ice cream.
The only thing in that list that would qualify as pre-prepared food would be the ice cream.
I make my own dishes with what I listed out and the vegan alternative is almost always more expensive in comparison.
Edit: The yogurt could technically be considered pre-prepared when I eat that on its own, but I also use it to help make sauces that go with the meals.