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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nuclear power is the ONLY form of clean energy that can be scaled up in time to save us from the worst of climate change

Except the plants take so long to build they won't be ready until we're at 2°C

[–] Instrument_Data@livellosegreto.it 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It has been fifty years that "oh no they take so long to build, better never start" that by today we would have completely decarbonized energy generation if we started actually building them.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

We could have also built solar collectors in orbit and beamed carbon-free electricity to Earth if we started 50 years ago.

Heck, if we funded fusion research properly there's a good chance we'd have had that by the mid 90s

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter, not it's to late so think about something else

[–] Instrument_Data@livellosegreto.it 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was too late ten years ago
It is too late today
It will be too late in ten years
It is always too late.

But weirdly it is never too late to be anti nuclear power.

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is also never to late to go full green energies and cut the useless spending such as private jets, luxury yatchs and son on

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

How are you gonna cut that spending?

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Knowing nothing about the process, can i ask, is the time it takes to build one based on current standards? Like if we were to focus more resources into the construction of new plants wouldnt they be built faster?

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The latest nuclear power plant built in the US is seven years behind schedule and almost $20 billion over budget. It bankrupted Westinghouse Energy, and is slated to cost consumers more than double what comparable electricity costs because of these overruns.

And this was a plant that was using newer construction techniques like offsite assembly to reduce costs.

[–] GitProphet@lemmy.sdfeu.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were there mistakes during the build process like lowballing spending figures or building time so they are permitted to build or did they just royally fuck up some other way?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It just seems to be a general issue in the industry and not specific to this plant or the US.

Flamanville-3 in France is 5 years overrun already and is projected to be operational 12 years from now. It's budget ballooned from 3.3B to 20B euros.

Olkiluoto-3 was only delayed a year, but the budget went from 3 to 11B Euro.

Hinkley Point C project is behind and esyimates have gone from £16B to almost £30B.

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Looks like one holdup nowadays is the ability to source HALEU (Uranium that is 4x as enriched as the typical fuel used in current reactors).

https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/what-high-assay-low-enriched-uranium-haleu

https://www.wyomingpublicmedia.org/natural-resources-energy/2022-12-14/the-opening-of-terrapowers-nuclear-plant-in-kemmerer-will-be-delayed-by-two-years

It was sourceable from Russia before they invaded Ukraine.