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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

She sells magical crucifixes and has warned of consequences from God for those who don’t stand with the president.

The president’s spiritual advisor, Florida-based televangelist scammer Paula White-Cain, said at a book-signing event this week that saying no to Donald Trump is the same thing as saying no to the Christian god.

While speaking during the event, White-Cain recounted how the president asked her to join his Evangelical advisory board before his 2016 inauguration, saying, “He’s got a strong persona, don’t get me wrong. Don’t start a fight with him.”

“Why would the evangelicals come out and vote for him?” she asked before saying that “God told me to” join his advisory board.

“Because one thing I said, ‘I’ll never do politics,'” she said. “But when it came down to it, it wasn’t about doing politics. It was about an assignment. To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God. And I won’t do that.

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Hell and the devil aren't even part of Christianity per se, it is something the baptist popularized as they are pagan concepts.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, they are, per The Bible. Repeatedly.

Your claim was never even imagined until long after the 1611 KJV, it's apologetic tripe

Hell is not a "pagan" concept. Many religions share it, pagans weren't the first (or Christians)

Where are you hearing this? Share, I want to see the goofiness personally... it's certainly not from The Bible.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hell, as most people imagine it, is from Dante"s Inferno.

https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa

The modern concept of hell as a place of eternal torment is widely considered a synthesis of pagan afterlife ideas, Greek philosophy, and later Christian theology.

You are simply incorrect. That is why Jews have no concept of hell because it isn't even in the Old Testament. Satan is your advocate in judgement not a tormentor.

It is sad to see people not even understand their religion or where concepts actually come from.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hell, as most people imagine it, is from Dante"s Inferno.

Not really. Vivid Christian depictions of Hell existed long before Dante's Inferno was ever written, centuries of established history. Dante was Christian and Catholic, you're embarrassing yourself.

You are 100% wrong. Your source, "The Brazen Church" at Medium, is absolute apologist garbage, with no citations or footnotes, totally worthless, with many false claims without any historical basis. Note that your source ignores all of the descriptions of Hell, and instead focuses on only the translation of one word (Hell).

It is clearly described as a place of eternal torment, repeatedly, with vivid descriptions (whatever you'd like to call it).

Re Jews, they are another matter, they have differing beliefs than Christians. Satan was not an "advocate" per the Bible. I never claimed that Hell was Jewish, so try and stay focused.

Lastly, it's not my religion.

Now, please stop spreading misinformation that you've learned from Medium, it's a tragedy.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You are obviously no theologian so I will have to pass on your interpretations. The fact that you can't even admit that pagan depictions of hell were adopted by Christians is fucking bizarre.

Having attended many different Christian denominations in my life I can tell you the baptist are the only ones to talk about about hellfire and brimstone to any degree.

https://bigthink.com/high-culture/brief-history-hell/

https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/how-when-the-idea-of-eternal-torment-invaded-church-doctrine-7610e6b70815

https://foundations.vision.org/hell-origins-idea-626

The fact that you deny fiction is the source of most of what people would consider hell is very telling. Not even mentioned in the Old Testament, but somehow saying the prince of peace conjured the eternal fires of tormented souls makes me doubt you even have a basic understanding of his teachings.

Now please stop denying history with your unsourced feeble attempts to prove that the devil and hell were not concepts borrowed from other religions including paganism.

Christianity itself is an amalgamation of many different religions before and during its formation. I am not sure what you gain by denying reality. Maybe it is your thing, cheers!

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