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[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

What?? Do you have an android phone? Google is so deeply integrated that you can't even disable uninstall it.

[-] lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I'm running LineageOS btw

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl -3 points 5 months ago

I do have an android phone.

There is no google on it by default. Have you ever installed android before? By default, it's without gapps. You have to download an extra package even to get the google crap on it.

[-] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 6 points 5 months ago

You are talking about custom roms. For 99.999% not the reality and therefore not helpful.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Pretty much all phones comes pre-installed with Android and completely tie to google with no easy way to get rid of it. Android is essentially develop by Google, open source or not, I'm not gonna waste time on rhetorical arguments on this.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Pretty much all laptops come pre-installed with Windows, but it's best practice to wipe and reinstall the OS immediately after you buy it

Same applies to cell phones.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Definitely not as simple to wipe out a phone as it is for a computer, and anyway most phones like Samsung are hard locked. I'm probably more geek than 95% of the population but never could do it.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago
[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] Senal@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

huh, never heard of that one, I’ll add it to the list, always good to have backup options.

In reply to to other points further up:

Android isn’t Google.

Yes it is, both the Wikipedia and the official website both state this.

I don't mean to get in to a slap fight but it's not really a subjective issue, android is still owned/run by google.

Though they didn't create it iirc, it was bought while it was still quite young.

Have you ever installed android before? By default, it’s without gapps.

Also not true, the official android comes with GMS and the Play suite (services, store etc).

Though there are places where some of the Play suite apps are not allowed to be bundled (iirc china does this), the default is still to include them.

Given that you're mentioning lineageOS then i'm assuming you mean the AOSP which afaict does indeed come without the GMS + normal google bs.

While both are "official", I can't think of any reasonable metric where the AOSP (and it's forks/derivatives) would be considered the the default.

[-] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 points 4 months ago

Every phone comes that way stock from the factory. You know that, but weirdly are ignoring that fact to be smug for some reason.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago

Comes what way? Without an OS?

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