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People who can’t afford food care, and by creating a price floor, even prices at for-profit grocery stores will be affected.
Kroger is supposedly going to test run lowered prices.
Also one of the best ways to stop people from starving.
You know what? Good point! We shouldn't even bother trying to make groceries more affordable until we can do this!
Not sure why you're saying that like anyone here would disagree with you. That's not some profound realization. That's something that every other person in this thread already knows.
I'm pretty sure I just had a stroke while attempting to parse this dumbass comment.
Who the fuck is putting people in camps for minor social democratic reforms? What world do you live in?
Cool, still didn't answer my question.
So you simultaneously see this as deflating revolutionary spirit and also don’t care about revolutionary spirit because you see the American working class as a lost cause? This is just edgelord bs.
FUCK this noise.
The "middle" class in the US, the folks still buying houses and cars, DoorDashing from Whole Foods and shit - allllll the folks "propping up the economy" by floating on generational money from "the good old days" - that's who needs to suffer and become radicalized, if anything is to change.
The fucking poor here have done their bit, they have nothing left to offer and will continue to be mercilessly preyed upon by so many doing so much better. Let them eat some cheap food. Fuck your idea of "revolution", you sound fucking gross.
Gross AND sociopathic
Whole lotta wrong assumptions about what I think here, don't appreciate that and won't spend my time correcting them.
I'm largely in agreement with plenty of this, but regardless, NYC poor ain't delivering revolution. More generally, poor in the US aren't either, while so much of the country just keeps it moving like nothing is all that wrong.
The middle class has to suffer, for change. The poor have done their bit. I'm not asking you to be excited, I'm asking you to stop talking about living human beings - the ones already suffering the worst - as pawns to use. It's wrong, and gross, no matter the goals.
You ain't wrong. He threw his wife under the bus.
This sounds accelerationist. We can’t organize the working class into revolution by being indifferent to their needs. It’s no way to build trust.
Worth noting, approximately 18% of American adults earn more than $100,000 a year.
They call it the K-shaped economy. There's an upper portion of the working class whose lives only get better (high wages, private property, investments) and a lower portion whose lives only get worse. It's hard to believe that someone who is going to work a low wage job until they die so they can give most of their paycheck to a landlord is bourgeoisified by imperial superprofits.
What left? The Democrats? lol
The US working class, on the other hand? I don't have a breakdown by income, but 60% of U.S. adults have an unfavorable view of Israel these days. I suspect if you mapped that onto the 80/20 split in incomes you'd see a strong correlation.
The US working class is being debourgeoisified by the war, incomes will be eaten by inflation and people will blame Israel for it. That's not exactly correct, the US and Israel are part of the same Zionist entity, but blaming Israel is a good first step.
Times are changing.
I wasn't around for it, but it seems very similar to how public sentiment changed in the Vietnam debacle.
Sorry for assuming you are in the imperial core.
What would you suggest the extremely few anti-imperialist socialists in the core do?
Nothing says progressive like making sweeping generalizations about a massive number of people, and wanting them all to die over some perceived slight. People who ostensibly agree with you about 98% of the time.
Go away, that shit is toxic.
Not everything is about you.
What do you think happens in civil wars exactly?
This is a reform won by the masses, people seeing they can do things like this will actually promote socialist revolution in the long run. Especially if and when the capitalists start moving aggressively against these stores, and if and when the Democratic Party starts trying to reel in Mamdani (and prevent him from saving their party with social democracy and prolonging American class peace). We win in a negative way when such things are teased out; and in the meantime, we enjoy some (maybe, big maybe) cheap food.