I'm pretty sure the whole thing is a false flag/astroturf to discredit sincere leftist discourse. It seems a lot like a blend of bad leftist parody, and edgy 14-year-olds who fell for it

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

Sounds like r/chapotraphouse in a nutshell.

Also, I think TheDude was underselling why they were originally banned on Reddit. They were the left-wing version of r/TheDonald. The reason he listed was just the excuse Reddit used to justify kicking them off the platform

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This exactly. I swear the entire point is to discredit and divide. The FBI couldn't do a better job if they tried. What I've been finding really interesting is the stress they put on being "anti-racist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, anti-fascist, etc". If you were really those things you would most definitely not need to shoehorn that into EVERY SINGLE COMMENT. "hey it's a nice day outside, I'm anti-racist anti homophobic anti trans anti fascist btw" Mind you on reddit when chapotraphouse was popular there were a lot of them talking about how they HATE identity politics and basically dismissing anything to do with race. So the pronouns in the names, the constant non sequitors about how they're actually "more anti-racist and anti-homophobic" than you, etc. It feels like it might just be really deep irony and they're just memeing it.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mistakenly assumed that they would be more similar to chapotraphouse, but now I see that the 3 year exile has stripped away many of the reasonable people. I still hope some of these users will snap out of it and realize they are acting obnoxiously and unproductively, but the chances of that happening seem slim at this point.

CTH was aggressively leftist but it was actually funny and self aware. Hexbear seems to have forgotten how to interact with ordinary people.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

I mean, I like aggressively leftist and most of lemmy that I've experienced feels that way. This hexbear shit feels like anti-leftist agitation though. It fucking stinks of feds. If not at the beginning, they're certainly there now

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know, I've actually met people in real life who were sort of like that. It was really toned down compared to what you would read online but it was still there.

[–] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, I literally just had a comment on my thoughts on it. Here is it pasted, since I don't want direct linking to it. TLDR it's probably majority those 14 year olds, not a false flag.

I don't think they are pretending to be those things. They truly believe themselves and their interpretation of Marxism, Marxism-Leninism, communism and socialist projects to be true and just.

The only issue is that they come from a specific strain of western leftist that got into the "uwu dank Soviet club" meme of the mid-10s and never evolved past that understanding of the people, projects, policies and states they stan like a fandom. They could take some lessons from the anarchists tbqh, but they'd rather post PPB and "liberals get the wall". Very annoying.