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So, you think that you have to be pro Hamas if you are pro Palestine?
Yes I believe to support a people you have to side with the defenders against the genocidal colonist ethnic cleansing. As someone said, If Hamas was wiped out and Israel killed my entire family and I was the sole survivor I would probably make "Hamas" 2.
Though of course this framing ignores the complexity that had existed among the different groups fighting for their lives again Israel who you know, uses dogs to rape prisoners, have sniper shot children in the head, and have rigged food cans to explode. Sadly though I'm not sure how many different groups exist anymore cause communication has been limited... You know because of the horrible devastation to the point we are not sure if some level of nuclear weapon has been used. Regardless of what has been used it has been hot enough to obliterate the bones of people in the center of the blasts.
You'll have to look elsewhere for someone to baulk at a question like that. I've been paying attention and reposting news on Palestine since it started. It's only the last few months because of my surgery I haven't been able to keep up as much. But from today it seems they are entering a new cycle of settlers taking over the land that was cleared.
The question isn't do you support Hamas. It SHOULD be do you support Israel? If Israel wasn't doing a genocide there would be no Hamas.
The news calls any resistance Hamas so very literally yes if you don't support Hamas you don't support Palestine.
Whatever you have been told about Hamas is almost certainly false. Zionists lie all the time and they conjured Hamas into a such a ridiculous boogeyman to scare the populace into compliance that when you compare the "Hamas" the israelis believe in and Hamas the way they are you begin to wonder where they even came up with this stuff. It's not just really far away from reality, it's complete fiction. Made up. Not even based on anything that has happened. Like usually with this kind of propaganda there is some story or kernel of truth that got blown up, distorted, twisted and ripped out of context, but with Hamas it's just straight fiction and atrocity porn.
Same for Hizbollah.
Yes!! And Ansarallah!
I e been told they attacked innocent people on October 3rd 2023, was that made up?
That accusation could not be more vague lol. I assume you mean october 7 and counter with that the IOF also killed a lot of "innocents" on that day. Probably more, they were firing indiscriminately at all the cars going towards gaza. They ordered helicopters to just empty their ammo by the hannibal doctrine. I mean it's a war, not a war the palestinians started mind you, they're the defensive party. Whatever death occurs is first to be blamed on the zionists who instigated it and who are keeping the native population in concentration camps and ghettos. Whatever mistakes hamas may have made, you have to weigh against what pissrael does. And since hamas is the only movement resisting the genocide it's that or no resistance at all. Who would you rather see prevail hamas or the IOF?
When you have people with rocks and sticks in a fight with a high tech military, I tend to take the side of those with the sticks. That doesn't mean I support everything Hamas is doing, and that everything we hear about Hamas is misinformation.
I draw the line at killing civilians. Hamas does it as well as Israel.
I think you can be pro Palestine without condoning the death of civilians. If Europe and the US stopped supporting what Israel has been doing for the last 60 years, there might be a chance for a Palestinian state. For this to happen, politicians need to speak up: this is what Platner did, so I think it's a good thing.
That's kind of an oxymoron, if the zionist project returned all the occupied territories it would cease to exist on account of not having anymore territory. Also you somehow think that "full israeli citizenship" is something people would just want. The only reason for palestinians to want that is to escape the hell the zionists are creating for them.
No actually everything we hear about Hamas is misinformation. The few crumbs that aren't outright fabrication are so far removed from the context, viewed from a very distinct western lens that they might as well be outright fabrication.
Ah that's a bit of a less vague accuasation. However, you're goomba stomping both crimes as if they're the same. The zionists are genociding civilians. They're actively targetting and hunting civilians just trying to live their life. Hamas is targetting people that are living on their land. The land that was stolen from them. They tried every avenue, the last big peaceful attempt was the great march to return. The zionists killed at least 223 peacefully demonstrating, unarmed civilians.
I do not condone the death of civilians, however I blame the zionists for the necessity of armed resistance. They deliberately are putting settlements close to the border, deliberately moved the nova music festival there in order to maximise civilian casualties so they could then blame Hamas for killing civilians.
I do not understand why you think Platner, the guy that loves killing so much he joined the army and went on several tours in order to do that, is anti-Israel.
Every "Israeli" is also IDF.
True! This is also often overlooked, conscientous objector are remarkably few. There are a couple of sects that are exempt from draft for religious reasons, but those exemptions are being contested as well. But the vast vast majority of zionists in the occupied territories that are of age are or were active participants in the genocide and can be called upon as the armies reserve.
They took innocent citizens from their armoured tanks as hostages :(
Yes. If you are against the resistance then you are a zionist. End of story.
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