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I think this is mostly a US thing. Why use yearly salary? You're not paid once a year, are you? Most likely once a month. Referencing monthly salary makes much more sense.

"I'm making 50k". Great, now I have to guess - dollars? Monthly? Yearly? If yearly then what's the monthly paycheck? Net? Gross?

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Naw dude... I know how tax brackets work.

Most folks who know how taxes work refer to their "tax bracket" inclusively with respect to both the point they are at as well as inclusive with all below

Because its impossible to be at the third tax bracket without logically also being in the first and second implicitly, it is redundant to include that.

Sorry mate but you are just coming across as pedantic here, or uninformed. Its quite normal to, colloquially, refer to the topmost bracket you are encroached into as "your tax bracket" singular, with everyone in the room understanding that is inclusive with all those below it.

I wont deny that there are a lot of people that think that going up a tax bracket means all their income is taxed at the new rate, which is always hilarious that people still think that in 2023.

But no, I assure you, I know how progressive tax brackets work lol.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In future we all expect you to list the average tax rate you are in and which two tax brackets that it lies between by calculating all the taxes paid and dividing by your gross wages then looking up the tax code to verify it has not changed. Please provide sources every time on your tax code.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're just repeating the same thing you said in the last comment and ignoring everything I wrote. Nowhere did I say that you need to list every bracket. I said people don't talk about "their tax bracket" because that isn't a thing and that isn't their tax bracket. It's just a percentage that some potentially miniscule amount of tax that may apply to a further potentially tiny fraction of income and in no way represents how much they're paying in taxes.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

and in no way represents how much they’re paying in taxes.

It does actually, because if you are any amount into tax bracket n, you are already implicitly paying the maximum taxes of brackets 1 to n-1

For example in Canada, federal tax brackets are:

  • 15% up to $53,359
  • 20.5% between $53,359 and $106,717
  • 29% between $165,430 up to $235,675 ...

If I say I am in the third tax bracket, that already implicitly informs you of how much taxes I am paying for the first and second brackets, because by being in the third bracket I already am paying the maximum amount for brackets one and two. These are now fixed values implicitly.

If I am in the third tax bracket, you know I am paying at minimum $8003.85 + $10938.39 (the maximums of bracket 1 and 2 combined), and at most another $20,371 above that.

No more, no less, the "third tax bracket" is paying between $18,942.24 and $39,313.24 per year.

So yes, it is a specific and fixed "range" of taxes.