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That's fair but if a specific source is a regular source of disinformation then you can understand blanket bans on said source. I do agree with your take on liberal free speech. Same as the free market. It's only free when it's benefitting the political in-tribe.
So if it can be shown objectively that a given Western source repeatedly spreads disinformation about a given socialist/anti-Western country, you would support a blanket ban from the government of that country using the same logic you're giving for supporting the EU's blanket ban, right?
Riiiiight?
Exactly why I said there can be no healthy mass media environment. It's bullshit from everyone from all angles all the way down.
You didn't answer the question. Would you support a blanket ban of a news outlet by any government as long as a pattern of disinformation can be objectively shown? Like China or North Korea banning RFA, the news outlet with verifiably bullshit articles that even other Western outlets have debunked? Or is that privilege reserved for "the good guys" in your mind?
You commented this earlier:
You say you don't understand I think you already have an answer. Is it accurate for me to say that you think it's because we support pretty much anything done by a communist government against the West, and oppose anything done by Western liberal government against communist countries? I.e. we're solely looking at who did something when deciding whether to support it instead of the merits of the thing itself? If so, I'm throwing that accusation right back at you. I think you blindly support pretty much anything Western governments do as long as it's against one of the West's enemies and blindly oppose anything communist governments do against the West.
I think we should ban everyone or no one. Seeing as banning everyone will never happen we should ban no one. You're just making up strawmen to attack me with. It's a bit ridiculous and says a lot about you and nothing about me.
That's why I asked if it's accurate for me to say that. I assume your answer is no?
Why don't you tell me why you think we oppose the EU's authoritarianism but not communist authoritarianism then. Genuinely curious to know your real thoughts if my assumption was incorrect.
I don't know why. There are many thoughts I have. The mainly revolve around controlled opposition, muddying the waters and disenfranchising the left.
Interesting. I don't agree with that nor a lot of your assessment on communists but I appreciate you answering, thanks.
You absolute loser
Disinformation hasn't been the problem with the particular source, it's the fact that it is providing information that's contrary to the narrative. The actual disinformation about the war has been coming from western source which keep telling us that Russian economy is about to collapse, that Russian army is pulling out chips from washing machines, that Russia is running out of missiles any day now, that Russia is isolated on the global stage, that Ukraine is doing great, that there are no fascists in Ukraine, and there is definitely no busification happening. The real issue here is that it's western media that it's western narrative that's divergent from reality. And now it's becoming increasingly difficult to hide the fact that the war is going poorly, and its economic effect on Europe, so the EU is becoming very insecure.
This dualism you are promoting where there is a good side and a bad side, an honest actor and a dishonest actor etc is text book Hollywood propaganda. You're so trapped in the western overton window you can't even see it.
I think you might be talking about yourself here, cause nowhere did I say the west is the good guy here, nor have I suggested that there is a good side at all. What I actually said was that western media objectively puts out far more misinformation because the narrative it is promoting is at odds with reality. It's not that Russian media is more honest, it's just they don't need to lie because Russia is winning the war.
You literally said they aren't doing disinformation and then said the other side are. This is just whataboutsim. All sides are engaged in disinformation. What anyone else does has no bearing on what RT do. It's exactly what I described.
I literally provided examples of constant disinformation we've had in the west over the past 4 years. Yes, all sides engage in pushing their own narrative, and that's precisely why it's so dangerous to limit access to information the way EU is doing. The argument that RT is exceptionally bad in this regard so that it specifically has to be blocked has no basis.
Good thing I never made that argument. I don't agree with the ban at all.
exhibit A:
Don't see it. What part of this aligns with me thinking RT is exceptionally bad? The only opinion I put forward is that mass media is equally bad from all sources. IMO it is literally the only reason mass media exists in the first place.
You're literally saying you can see why it would be reasonable to ban a specific source. So, your whole position is self contradictory. If there is no difference in quality of media from all sources, then there is no justification for banning a specific source.
Your reading comprehension needs work. I never said that. I said I can see why you might find that problematic. It has nothing to do with my opinion.
the whole context for this thread is literally you attacking the character of the person who pointed out the draconian media suppression in EU, and then doing hand wringing to justify it. You're not fooling anybody here.
Do you know what dark MAGA is?
lmfao, can't wait for you to explain how that's relevant to the discussion about EU banning Russian media
So you don't know what their relation is to the post we are discussing?
That relation exists solely in your propagandized mind. Thank you for providing us with a concrete example of what happens to people who guzzle propaganda exclusively from western liberal media.
There is no point in having this conversation with you. Are you also on their payroll or are you just wilfully ignorant? This place is textbook controlled opposition.
I love how making personal attacks is your go to tactic when your bullshit has been laid bare. Bye troll.