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It hurt most when my mother told me that she voted for him. Most of my family did but I didnt know that at the time.
They are bad people tho 🤷🏻
"Look, my family aren't bad people. All they did was turn their heads when the Nazis came door to door looking for people. It's not like they PERSONALLY did any of that. They just wanted the economy working again."
I don't think they are necessarily bad, maybd ignorant and selfish for not considering the bad consequences on other's lives
Sorry to say this, but your family voted for trump knowing who he is and what he would do to people. They are not good people. Ignorant and selfish people aren't generally good people.
And it hurts to hear it, but you need to acknowledge the facts of reality. I've gone through this recently with my fuckhead uncle, and it still hurts a bit when the stupid fuck tries to get me to call him, but I keep telling him no because he won't change who he is and I want nothing to do with people like that. And it's ok to acknowledge that your family aren't good people, but I wont pretend it's easy to do. You can keep them in your life if you have the energy to try to change them, but know that you can't change someone who doesn't want to change.
But it is not easy to be a good person when you're surrounded by media that try to make everything look ok, even if it isn't. I'm not trying to justify every person who voted for Trump and I don't think all of them are bad people, but they're stupid tho.
I never said it was easy. But as someone who grew up constantly having fox news and limbaugh shoved down my throat for 10-15 years, I know first had just how hard it is, and that it can be done if you want to do it.
We can agree to disagree on this point. Even from alt-right sources, they knew he was going to do shit like deport anyone and everyone he could, and would embolden the police to be even more over the top than they already were. The problem is these people see shit like that as a good thing, which is why they are bad people.
I personally don't care why someone voted for trump, the individual reasons are unimportant when they knew the kinds of horrors he would unleash on us. That's why they are bad people. They knowingly made this choice, and from my interactions with magats around me, they're only upset that the leopards are eating the wrong faces but would probably still vote for him again if they could (and anyone who tells you otherwise is most likely lying, just like after 2020).
Good point. Why watching fox news while you were growing up didn't make a maga person tho?
Because I managed to internalize the Catholic morals I was raised with instead of just paying them lip service. Going to university and getting out from under that mental blanket helped a lot.
Also, the whole gamergate controversy snapped me out of whatever conservative mentalities I had when I saw the type of person I was becoming.
Damn, I've got no problem with conservative or liberal people as long as they're not extremist or try to impose their beliefs on people's lives
Yeah, I agree, but this part is just about always not the case with open conservatives in my experience. My entire chosen family is lgbtq+, so I get to see the real side of conservatives more than most do. And after seeing the lengths they will go to punish people I love for the crime of existing outside of their heteronormative bubble, I don't really give them the benefit of the doubt.
People who are still (or have been for about a decade at this point) openly conservative know the type of people they are teaming up with, so there's no question on where they stand in my mind
Not easy, no. But absolutely possible. There were absolutely Germans in Nazi Germany that didn't just go along with what was happening. A lot of them fled the country. A lot of them helped the resistance in any way they could.
Turning your brain off and giving in to mass delusion is lazy and wrong.
Nah. Being ignorant and selfish is deffo bad.
Don't pretend. Stop trying to not rock the boat. The kindest thing you can do for your loved ones is to help them find their way out of the darkness, you can't do that if you won't acknowledge reality, to their face.
dude they are bad people, think of the wives of the guards at Auswitz, looking after hearth and home, That's your sister.
Their actions aren't your fault, don't beat yourself up about it.
Hey friend, you're not alone in that pain. But please don't let the hurt and anger blind you. We don't talk about weasels like that. Comparing them to Trump like that is unreasonably cruel to weasels.
3 times probably, and looking forward to the 4th one already.
They are if they still support him. Can't ride the fence on this one. It's gone too far. Ignorant people can also be bad people.
pa suburbs are essentially the south don't feel bad we're close enough to nyc should've known better (at least philly, pittsburg is pretty much ohio)