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[–] deanza7@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nothing only that he’s right to be scared and that it’s way too late to change what’s coming. Too many people don’t believe in climate change and too many ultra rich ones keep not giving a shit about it. It’s unavoidable…

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://mander.xyz/post/3196712 - Americans experience a false social reality by underestimating popular climate policy support by nearly half - Nature Communications

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

false social reality brought to you by The Merchants of Doubt (aka fossil fuel industry pr firm).

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Same people that did tobacco lobbying to boot!

[–] Alto@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm well aware that most people want shit to change and are willing to take the steps to do it.

None of that fucking matters until we force corporations go change

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Well, most people seem to be willing to take the steps to change things except for voting, paying extra taxes, supporting anyone who'll do anything to hold corporations accountable, paying extra for anything sustainable or generally making any sort of personal compromises at all.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We need way stricter laws and enough participant countries, and I'm sure it will happen. Things have already been accelerating these last 20 years, and it's taken dried out rivers in Europe and a high frequency of devastating hurricanes and wildfires in America and Australia to get things started. It will require even worse summers that drag out and eliminate spring and autumn for humanity to really be dead serious, but it will happen.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The issue is it'll already be too late by then

Sure, we may prevent the absolute worst case apocalypse scenario, but there will already be billions suffering horribly by the time it gets to that point

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

This, just change "force corporations go change" to "abolish capitalism entirely"

[–] JSocial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I suppose you could go that route to reassure. I'm reading this as in "It only seems like most people don't care about the climate".

You'd probably need to follow up with the numbers in regards to public support of a policy, how our elected officials address those desires of the constituency, and then corresponding policy changes.

And then, you can play some Carsie Blanton for them.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You're not wrong but it's also not helpful.

[–] JackLSauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'll agree with the second half of this statement

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you need to couch it better like. Don't worry buddy. It will be agonizingly slow. Youve got plenty of time.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He'll be in his 30s when wars start, because immigrants will overrun still habitable lands and fight for the quickly diminishing water reserves. If you're not yet in your 60s and nothing happens, you'll see it yourself.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

yeah my parents were silent generation and I sorta wish I was. If you lived long your about to die or died in the last decade or two. You started out in the depression but pretty much after that things tended to get better by and large. I actually would have liked to be like 16 in 1972 so you could see the end of the vietnam war and the draft before you became draftable and it would hit a nice spot to be a computer science major and be immersed in the wonderful technology to come.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

How about: Start mentally preparing yourself to murder for survival?

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Death itself is unavoidable. Enjoy the ride while you can.