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Is Clean Architecture actually good? What's your experience? (programming.dev)

submitted 5 days ago by somegeek@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev

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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/54023908

Hi!

I've never read any of Uncle Bob's books. But I have taken interest in "Clean Architecture" as it seems like a good solution to make mid to large sized projects simple to understand and maintain.

I think MVC gets too much coupling and fails at larger projects, same with n-tier. But I'm not sure about anything right now (software design is a very complicated problem after all).

So I was wondering if you friends who have used Clean Architecture in production can share your knowledge and experience with me about this design?

Is it actually good and worth investing in?

Footnote:

I'm especially weighing this architecture because Uncle Bob's writings are really hit and miss. I don't see him as a master or guru so I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

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[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why?

[–] expr@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He hasn't done any real software development in decades, and it shows. His books are chock full of terrible ideas and his ideas of "clean" anything are anything but.

One of the best examples of his hackery is this tweet: https://xcancel.com/unclebobmartin/status/982229999276060672#m

Completely false misinformation presented as fact from an "authority".

Also apparently probably a fascist, based on this and some other tweets I came across while trying to find that one: https://x.com/unclebobmartin/status/1398671193922805761 (apologies for the X link, can't seem to find this one on xcancel?). I would need to look further since it's news to me, but it's hard to imagine any other interpretation of that tweet.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Having links to backup what you claim is always a good thing, so thank you for this. I have blocked X/Twitter, but do not care about the political statements anyway. So no need to lookup for me.

For the false information on the technical explanation, well I can't confirm what it is, because I never really understood Monads. Now that does not mean his his approach to how software should be thought off is wrong. But I understand why someone is careful after such statements (if its plain and simply wrong). The thing is, everyone makes mistakes and false statements at some time. It depends on how often this happens and how the situation is handled, if the person admits it and learns from the mistakes.

Therefore I wouldn't just say his books are dumpster fires. I personally didn't read his books, but there are people who seem to like it. The best is someone reads it themselves and finds out if its for them or not; provided its not false information.