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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's hard to take you seriously if you think that civil rights isn't a step forward.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

That's not what I said. I said that progress of the civil rights era, which by the way was a bi-partisan project and not limited to the Ds, was met almost immediately with a bi-partisan effort to undermine those same civil rights through other means, like racialized mass incarceration, the war on drugs, and racialized means testing.

Civil rights was example of how you push both parties - you make it impossible for them to ignore you. Note that black people had abysmal voter turnout in the years immediately preceding the passage of the Civil Rights act. It was something like 7% - 25% turnout depending on the state. Clearly the progress they made was not because they voted in primaries. The same is true of Women's Suffrage. How do you think women got the right to vote when they couldn't vote in primaries or general elections?

That's how progress has always been made in this country, and voting for the lesser evil is always has progress is lost. It was the Ds and Rs working together that undermined it. Hell, before civil rights it was FDR (D) that created the system of racialized red lining. The Democrats under the Nixon administration were co-architects of the war on drugs. A couple of admins later, Joe Biden (D) would architect the crime bill and the Ds would openly triangulate to court racists most notably by crowing about (black) super predators.

Yes, Black people forced the political establishment to take a step forward, but not with voting. And the process of backsliding has been a bi-partisan effort for over 50 years.