Overseas News 🦘

731 readers

12 users here now

A place for Australians and friends to share news from the other countries. Like all communities here, we discuss topics from the Australian perspective.

If you're looking for a global /c/worldnews instead, search for the many options on federated instances.

Rules

Follow the aussie.zone rules
We are not a generic World News clone. News must be relevant to Australians and our region. Obvious disregard will earn an warning and then a ban if continued. (If an article isn't from an Oceanian news outlet, and it doesn’t mention Australia, then it’s probably off-topic)
News posts must include some body text explaining how the article is particularly relevant to the Australian perspective, rather than mere global news.
Leave seppocentrism at the door. If you don't know what that means, you're not ready to post here yet.
Avoid editorialising headlines. Opinions go in the comments, not the post.

founded 3 years ago

MODERATORS

Inside the horrifying online network where children coerce others to commit violence and self-harm (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by arbilp3@aussie.zone to c/worldnews@aussie.zone

5 comments fedilink hide all child comments

An Australian teenager and her mother have become instrumental in the investigation of this network.

“A worrying trend is how victims are becoming perpetrators to try to escape their online bullies who have befriended and groomed them, and then forced them to hurt themselves.”

“A lot of times kids come forward and maybe [the police] don’t recognise the signs that it’s the 764 network, and so they don’t pursue it as aggressively as they should,” she says.

Spinks says there needs to be greater awareness for parents too. The Australian federal police cite warning signs including indications of self-harm, sudden withdrawal from family and friends and secretive behaviour about online interactions.

“One of the biggest, most dangerous misunderstandings is that this won’t happen to us, or this only happens to a certain type of kid, when in reality, it could honestly happen to anyone.”

Support is available at Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636, Lifeline on 13 11 14, and at MensLine on 1300 789 978.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't have much/any that the author doesn't.

I don't know as much about CVLT/764, there's better info about them on Wikipedia than I can give offhand, but Order of Nine Angles is an influence on them. It's.... strange. It's essentially an antisocial (as in, misanthropic) "Satanist Nazism" occult network that actively encourages the worst kind of crimes against people (no need to list them). They're notably more political than the other sadist/extortion groups mentioned, but still not primarily political. They also encourage members to infiltrate organisations, I forget what they call this, so there are a lot of them infiltrating neo-nazi orgs who absolutely hate O9A for proliferating accelerationism and CSAM in their networks.

More info on 764 and related; obvious trigger warnings: https://unicornriot.ninja/2024/sextortion-coms-inside-a-vile-child-exploitation-cult-run-by-nazi-linked-teens/

Selected quotes:

The group [764] became so notorious that the white supremacist group White Lives Matter started utilizing a Telegram bot on their channels to automatically prevent any user associated with the Com from joining their chats.

Some of the Com members have now tried to start legitimate national socialist groups or have joined existing ones to varied degrees. Some have taken to spamming national socialist chats with both gore and CSAM. In one Telegram channel, for instance, they openly argue that it’s ok to extort and abuse young girls if they are not white. [...] All of this is very inconvenient for many traditional National Socialists given how fond they are of claiming pedophilia is a left-wing problem, or related to what they view as homosexual degeneracy. And although there is a well documented history of some neo-Nazis being charged with sex crimes, such as James Mason, the Com movement may be a bridge too far for many of them.

It's important to emphasise that the notably strong connection between neo-Nazi groups and child abuse still exists even when disregarding O9A/764/etc., but those groups being so common among the far-right political sphere is telling.

[–] arbilp3@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for that information, eureka. I have noticed a few men in the area where I live using nazi and satanist symbols on their clothes, phones etc.

As to claiming pedophilia is a left-wing problem, the Tate brothers' exposed activities and their connection to the White House, not to mention the Epstein stable of very unleft-wing perpetrators should by now have put this furphy very publicly in the gutter.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have noticed a few men in the area where I live using nazi and satanist symbols on their clothes, phones etc.

That's terrible to hear. There are different cases where basic satanic and Nazi symbolism are used thoughtlessly to be edgy, like drawing a penis graffiti or unserious Satanism as a crude protest against Christianity (e.g. Satanic Temple), but Nazism on clothes and phones is a serious issue. I'm lucky enough to have never seen that crap in person, just some low-grade stickering by an NSN geek (only someone in the know would recognise it) and some old run-down idiot I saw once with a tattoo. I hope it's not being normalised in your area.

As to claiming pedophilia is a left-wing problem [snip]

Yeah, there's layers to this rot.

I can point to multiple cases of those shouting "queer pedos!" getting busted for CSAM. Charles Sutherland, for example, or James C. Burford (head of a branch of the American Nazi Party in Chicago).

Then one can trace back the history of "the Epstein class" a long way through US history, this isn't a new phenomenon. [edit: at around 21:46, they start talking about post-slavery era]

And there's this summary infographic of neo-nazi leaders being convicted of such offenses. (CW - swasi)