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You crazies won and proved me wrong. The fediverse isn't worth saving after all.

Over the course of the last several days, I have received a constant stream of harassing messages, death threats, and threats of doxxing over DM, Matrix, Github, and Codeberg. All of it instigated and eggged on by another instance's top admin. This is unacceptable for all of the reasons in the world, and while I won't give you the personal satisfaction of having won, you've definitely proven me wrong about the fediverse being something that even can be saved from itself.

Even people around here I'd interacted with positively for years and had grown to respect because they seemed level headed and above the immature and sociopathic bullshit that dominates this platform showed their true selves. That completely shattered any and all illusions I had that this place has a hidden core of users that I should try to make more visible amongst all the rage, rage baiting, propaganda, harassment, rumor mongering, trolls, conspiracies, purity testing, and violent rhetoric.

Like many of the rational people before me who called this place home, I'm done with this place.

I tried to carve out a space where those people and other rougher edges were not drowning out niche communities and hobbies and where people who choose to use the platform to harass others were also out of sight, out of mind. Apparently only three people who aren't me actually want a place that's not just a circle-jerk of rage and hate. Thus sayeth the mob.

Then you have entire instances whose admins call for the death of others, harass other users, and lead harassment, brigading, and DARVO campaigns against those who dare call out their bullshit or decide to disassociate themselves and their work from them.

Lemmy.World was so close to doing the right thing after instance-that-will-not-be named's admins were calling for the death of LW's admins while spreading rumours and labeling others in such a way that painted them as targets for murder. All of that, mind you, with absoultey no evidence other than specuation and their own cooked-up conspiracies about modlog actions or taking and twisting things wildly out of context to fit their made-up narratives so they had someone to say they 'caught' and should be killed.

.world was on the precipice of doing the right thing and disaccociating themselves from that psychotic shit show, but silently dropped the issue and carried on as usual after wringing their hands for maybe two weeks.

"We have to worry about the optics or the politics of it." they probably said.

Bullshit.

I'm one person and have held my fucking ground, mostly with dignity and grace, in the heat of my own shitstorm of trying to disaccociate from the extremist elements of the fediverse. If I can stand up for what's right and deal with the blowback, so can you.

Fuck lemmy world's admin team for condoning that behavior and letting the human skidmark db0 DARVO his way out of the situation while brigading with his army of malcontents whom he wields like a cult leader. He knows exactly what he is doing, and you all continue to allow him to get away with it.

Nah, fuck this whole place. I've let too many things fall by the wayside IRL because of dealing with all this fediverse bullshit and trying to give it the slightest bit of polish both visually and atmospherically. Mythbusters may have proven that you can, in fact, polish a turd, but at the end of the day, it's still a shiny ball of shit.

For the few people left who didn't turn out to be psychotic, I'll think of you from time to time when recalling something you've posted or commented that genuinely made me laugh, made me think, or otherwise put a smile on my face or in my heart.

Everyone else, though, enjoy your toxic, xenophobic, knee-jerk-to-violence, purity-testing, and harassing-anyone-who-doesn't-fall-in-line cess pit. One day you, too, will do or say something that doesn't toe the line and you'll be right where I am.

P.S. Rimu, you owe me a beer. No one is talking about the Piefed vote quotas anymore, so you're welcome.



EDIT: forgot to add:

EDIT2:

Removed the link to the original message because the douche included a Javascript on the page to DDOS Dbzero0

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We were on a previous version, so that's why. I think that's actually what hypercharged this drama. If I had not fell back on my upgrade schedule for a while, I would have realized tesseract was doing blacklists early on, and the backlash was probably be orders of magnitude lower. But because he had time to build this up to this monster, when people discovered it, it was a huge deal.

The shadowbanning users was added a year ago 23 July last year^[https://github.com/db0/tesseract/blob/859f49a8401877aa32477c74f99196d202f6c20a/src/lib/blacklists.ts], the switch to api came on 16 November if I'm reading it right^[https://github.com/db0/tesseract/commit/1aeac6eea393a99e29e5c078e23a0259e2dc4bce], at least the harcoded list gets commented out 12 November^[https://github.com/db0/tesseract/commit/9665782066f9153dda5d3b23585bfb770f1e37de#diff-37c5ad94d8a672374edc00d016aa018f9839dfcd47fa25a6ca837a270703420f] so it's around that time. dbzer0 gets blocked 29 April^[https://github.com/db0/tesseract/commit/2b53f17a5506b7c4b3ad1d5c26af49662f03a478]. I don't know if you would have seen that warning that got added in 10 March^[https://github.com/db0/tesseract/commit/773eabbaba903114518ad6ccb084d8397c7a093c], but God knows how big the list got between November and March already with him just able to append shit to a JSON whenever he felt like it without having to commit it. Just copy-past done. So I think the fall-out would have already been plenty big lol

Hah so I went back in time to 29 April, that was a day after the whole nazi-fake, and you can see them ranting about the "crazies" even then

https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/41866405/20277272

It would be like if I had said "death to all traitors", where you might even agree with my general statement, yet that statement hits quite differently when I had just previously called YOU a traitor. The two things combined are what makes it a PERSONAL attack

Exactly that. I have no idea why people refuse to see that. We learned about the transitive property in 5th grade maths, and it applies here in the same way.

dbzer0 is getting pulled by AN into a deeper axis - solidarity among leftists I believe - while AN is beginning to become another Hexbear.

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And don't even get me started on all the logical fallacies that I see continually leveraged - goalpost shifting, taking words out of context while deliberately twisting their meaning, etc. This is all very much beyond childish, it seems rather intentional to me.

While not exclusive to them, that's been hexbear's MO for as long as I've been aware of their existence, so there certainly seems to be some contamination originating from there. /0 is federated with hexbear but not grad. AN feds with grad and HB.

One side of this feud just needs to pull the proverbial trigger already, de-fed, and whatever happens happens; things will balance back out on its own in time and ideally the violent crazies will have their space and normal people theirs. I'm so sick of the drama, the violent crazy people, the gaslighting, the DARVO-ing, the witch hunts, the conspiracy theories, the name calling, the purity tests, the finger pointing, and I'm not even active here that much anymore, so let that put the scale of this bullshit in perspective.

AN would like it very much pwetty pulease if they could troll users on other instances,

That's exactly the crux of their argument, and they refuse to even ask "are we the baddies?" and instead are DARVO-ing the situation and playing the victim.

also pretty funny in retrospect this comment of yours

~~It seems the blahaj links don't work anymore~~

Wait no nevermind. Tesseract frontend is fucking up the URLs

ah if only we knew back then what we know now lol