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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

that's a fascinating take; what makes you believe this?

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't want to be the guy arguing on the Internet, but just read the Wikipedia article on communism here. When the Russian people toppled their last monarch, they never actually went full communism.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wikipedia

this explains a lot about why you believe this.

would you still believe wikipedia if i shared freedom of information act releases that directly contradict wikipedia? (the releases also contradict npr, cnn, cbs, bbc, etc.)

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I am always open to the truth. Please, do share.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago

go read wikipedia's page about north korea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

and then read the foia releases about north korea (or ateast the ones you can still access online): https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11749952/8255268

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

The truth is only what they want. Facts are anti communist!

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you think Wikipedia is biased, then I have nothing further to say to you. Enjoy OAN, News Max, Fox News, and all that other right wing horse shit. Wikipedia is community consensus. It's the only place I get my "news" from.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

yes, wikipedia is community consensus and community consensus once was that iraq had wmd's -- the foia proved otherwise. consensus isn't truth; it's just the most popular opinion at the time.

the foia gives you what the us government tries to hide. it is literally the us government itself being legally forced to share its secrets to the american public because of a law that was passed decades before the us gov't became fully captured by corporate interests and the epstein class.

[–] G4Z@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

community consensus once was that iraq had wmd’s

It really wasn't.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

here's wikipedia's consensus still framing the government's wmd claims as 'assertions' while uncritically repeating them years after the iraqi invasion: https://wayback.qa-archive-it.org/all/20080911173302/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

The foia showed the government had doubts before the invasion -- wikipedia didn't.

[–] pleiades@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wikipedia is biased by nature as a secondary source, just towards the political paradigm so you don't recognize it as easily. In fact, here's a Wikipedia page you might want to check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Hey does ProleWiki have a page talking about its own issues? Weird how "evil" and "biased" wikipedia will explictly tell you about possible issues and its own history without issue, but ProleWiki won't.

But sure, wikipedia is the dishonest one. Lemme go see how objective ProleWiki is on topics it dislikes.

[–] pleiades@lemmy.ml -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't know, I've barely used it.

Just checked and it doesn't seem to, but considering it's a much smaller and newer project than Wikipedia that would make sense.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Thank you for responding.

[–] pleiades@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Sure. Just took a look at your edit though, and I feel like holding ProleWiki and Wikipedia to the same standards is a bit absurd, especially cause there aren't people who go around using it as their main source of news like how boaratio is doing to wikipedia. Since ProleWiki is so much smaller, it would only make sense that the articles there are lower quality, there aren't as many of them, and they have been less reviewed, no?